AHC: Danish Prussia

Which Prussia? The pre Teutonic Baltic pagans are not Ducal Prussia is not Brandenburg-Prussoa is not Germany is not...

Have them hold onto Pomerania (or was that Sweden?) and use that as a stepping stone to Brandenburg/Prussia. A strojger performance by Chrsttian in the Thirty Years War equivalent plus dynastic claims would do the trock though I don't know how long they could hold it. Sweden's a better bet IMO- have the Vasa wars with Poland go better and/or a Swedish victory in the TYW and North Germany/Scandinavia/the Baltic would drift to his orbit.

A lasting Kalmar union could help, the added manpower and lack of rivalries could allow them to project more power southwards and eastwards.
 
Which Prussia? The pre Teutonic Baltic pagans are not Ducal Prussia is not Brandenburg-Prussoa is not Germany is not...

Have them hold onto Pomerania (or was that Sweden?) and use that as a stepping stone to Brandenburg/Prussia. A strojger performance by Chrsttian in the Thirty Years War equivalent plus dynastic claims would do the trock though I don't know how long they could hold it. Sweden's a better bet IMO- have the Vasa wars with Poland go better and/or a Swedish victory in the TYW and North Germany/Scandinavia/the Baltic would drift to his orbit.

A lasting Kalmar union could help, the added manpower and lack of rivalries could allow them to project more power southwards and eastwards.
that was Sweden, however Denmark could have got it if they wanted it.
The thing is Denmark isn't a great land power, why would they want Prussia when anyone who owns it is going to have to fight for it. Even Brandenburg-Prussia was a Polish then Swedish then Polish again before the Great Sleigh Drive allowed the Hohenzollerns full control.

Denmark might get it but then Sweden's gonna come at them, Polands going to consider them a vassal. The only onw who really wanted Prussia OTL was Brandenburg.
 
Actually Denmark had some control over Pomerania in the early 1200s before one of the HREmperors nabbed it.
Simply have Denmark retain then expand eastward
 
Actually Denmark had some control over Pomerania in the early 1200s before one of the HREmperors nabbed it.
Simply have Denmark retain then expand eastward

So you would have the Danish take Prussia and then aim for Russia :confused:

Why not have the Danish set up as vassal:
Christian II of Denmark is able to beat Gustav Eriksson meaning he keeps, Sweden, controlling much of the land and trade routes in the Baltic, a war breaks out between the Denmark and Poland, with Denmark winning, leading the Polish king Sigismund I to call a cease fire, signing away his land to the north.
When Christian II is succeeded by King Frederick I of Denmark, fearing this land will be retaken, he places his son, Adolf, Duke of Holstein-Gottorp as Grand Duke of Prussia.
 
Wouldn't Ducal Prussia be the easiest,instead of a Hohenzollern wedding, one to a Danish scion instead?

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The most obvious would be a different Battle of Bornhöved, with Denmark solidifying contol over the northernmost German duchies north of Elbe (Emperor Frederik II had already accepted Danish 'ownership' of the area).

And then go from there, following the obvious track that both Denmark and later Sweden tried following, making the Baltic a private lake ... Helps that Denmark can also press on from Estonia which they owned at this period of time, so it shouldn't be to farfetched that they could convince the teutonic knights to move on, further east into OTL Lithuania, with Denmark bracketing them, to the north and west, with Poland to the south.
 
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