AHC: Create a fascist Britain lead by Oswald Mosley

Like it says in the tin.
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Prevent Mosley from storming off and keep him in the Labour party, have him take over as caretaker after the National Labour breakaway, leading the party into a somewhat better election result due to Mosleys popularity and populist rhetoric. He continues as a passionate leader of the opposition against a dithering MacDonald and an invisible Baldwin humiliating the Government over Abysinnia, Spain and the continuing economic failure. In 1935 the Governments majority is sharply reduced, National Labour has been wiped out and Independent Labour has returned as a prodigal son. The Munich crisis sees Mosley on top form, gradually eroding the National Governments majority. With the German occupation of Czechoslovakia, Mosley finally seizes his moment and declares a vote of no confiedence in the Government and its appeasement policies. Chamberlain begs Mosley to wait until the current crisis has ended, Mosley refuses, declaring that the crisis is only being worsened by the National Governments continued existence. In May the new Prime Minister enters into No.10 triumphantly declared a guarantee would the given for Polands safety.

In Berlin, a non-smoking vegetarian in a silly uniform, begins to tremble. It is the calm before the storm.
 
Prevent Mosley from storming off and keep him in the Labour party, have him take over as caretaker after the National Labour breakaway, leading the party into a somewhat better election result due to Mosleys popularity and populist rhetoric. He continues as a passionate leader of the opposition against a dithering MacDonald and an invisible Baldwin humiliating the Government over Abysinnia, Spain and the continuing economic failure. In 1935 the Governments majority is sharply reduced, National Labour has been wiped out and Independent Labour has returned as a prodigal son. The Munich crisis sees Mosley on top form, gradually eroding the National Governments majority. With the German occupation of Czechoslovakia, Mosley finally seizes his moment and declares a vote of no confiedence in the Government and its appeasement policies. Chamberlain begs Mosley to wait until the current crisis has ended, Mosley refuses, declaring that the crisis is only being worsened by the National Governments continued existence. In May the new Prime Minister enters into No.10 triumphantly declared a guarantee would the given for Polands safety.

In Berlin, a non-smoking vegetarian in a silly uniform, begins to tremble. It is the calm before the storm.

That doesn't answer the OPs question of how to create a Fascist Britain. That just creates a Labour Leader of a National Governemnt in 1940 instead of Churchill.

The problem for Mosley was in many ways similar to Enoch Powell. He wanted to be right all the time and in the end could only endure the company of those who accepted he was fantastic. To be successful in democratic politics in Britain you need to know how to handle rejection and criticism from the people around you.

Mosley had no patience and in the end his loyalty was to the reflection in the mirror rather than his country. A bit like Powell and perhaps Tony Benn too.
 
That doesn't answer the OPs question of how to create a Fascist Britain. That just creates a Labour Leader of a National Governemnt in 1940 instead of Churchill.

The Mosley memorandum was rather fascist, and Britain during WW2 was quite authoritarian to boot.
 
Don't know if this counts, but in my timeline, Oswald Mosley takes control of Great Britain, just the physical island of Great Britain, after an armistice in the British Civil War, and rules as President of the Republic of Great Britain, but ITTL he's a Strasserist National Socialist.
 
Prevent Mosley from storming off and keep him in the Labour party, have him take over as caretaker after the National Labour breakaway, leading the party into a somewhat better election result due to Mosleys popularity and populist rhetoric. He continues as a passionate leader of the opposition against a dithering MacDonald and an invisible Baldwin humiliating the Government over Abysinnia, Spain and the continuing economic failure. In 1935 the Governments majority is sharply reduced, National Labour has been wiped out and Independent Labour has returned as a prodigal son. The Munich crisis sees Mosley on top form, gradually eroding the National Governments majority. With the German occupation of Czechoslovakia, Mosley finally seizes his moment and declares a vote of no confiedence in the Government and its appeasement policies. Chamberlain begs Mosley to wait until the current crisis has ended, Mosley refuses, declaring that the crisis is only being worsened by the National Governments continued existence. In May the new Prime Minister enters into No.10 triumphantly declared a guarantee would the given for Polands safety.

In Berlin, a non-smoking vegetarian in a silly uniform, begins to tremble. It is the calm before the storm.

If this hadn't been posted by you, I'd assume it was backhanded ideological comment on inter-war Labour from a Blimpish flyby, but as is the OP asked for a Fascist Mosley. That means jackboots on the ground.
 
If this hadn't been posted by you, I'd assume it was backhanded ideological comment on inter-war Labour from a Blimpish flyby, but as is the OP asked for a Fascist Mosley. That means jackboots on the ground.

Hehe,

The reality is that Britain will never vote for the BUF, what Mosley failed to understand is that the only way to bring a new ideology into Britain is to work inside the two-party system. Other than that, the Nazi-Soviet alliance installs him in 1949 after London and Manchester are hit by atomic weapons.
 
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two-party system.

Two and a half surely ;)

Britain is very resistant to ideological change - if new ideas are going to be radical and pushed through then there must either be problems that justify them (such as a world war) or a lot to be going on at the time (like with the reconstruction and the NHS).
 
The Mosley memorandum was rather fascist, and Britain during WW2 was quite authoritarian to boot.

State interventionist Fascism and Socialism often overlap and it's perhaps not a coincidence that Mussolini was a Socialist too before he became a Fascist.

But IMO even if Mosley's memorandum had been adopted it's likely that some in the Labour Party would have seen the direction Mosley was going and they would have eventually broken with a Mosleyite Labour.

Once 'old' Labour broke away they would take a lot of their core support with them and I don't think the Trades Unions would have stuck with Mosley for very long.

By the 1935 election you would see old Labour winning more seats than National Labour and Mosley's position would be weakened. Also I think the character defects of Mosley would become too obvious and he would become isolated in the National government and whatever cabinet position he had he would have faced demotion or being passed over for the top jobs. This would lead him to resign in one of the grand gestures that people like him couldn't resist.
 
But IMO even if Mosley's memorandum had been adopted it's likely that some in the Labour Party would have seen the direction Mosley was going and they would have eventually broken with a Mosleyite Labour.

Once 'old' Labour broke away they would take a lot of their core support with them and I don't think the Trades Unions would have stuck with Mosley for very long.

Corporatism in theory is quite beneficial towards trade unions, especially Mosley's idea of giving them direct political representation.

By the 1935 election you would see old Labour winning more seats than National Labour and Mosley's position would be weakened. Also I think the character defects of Mosley would become too obvious and he would become isolated in the National government and whatever cabinet position he had he would have faced demotion or being passed over for the top jobs. This would lead him to resign in one of the grand gestures that people like him couldn't resist.

Most likely, but this is the only way I can see that even has a chance of making this absurd scenario somewhat doable.
 
Corporatism in theory is quite beneficial towards trade unions, especially Mosley's idea of giving them direct political representation.



Most likely, but this is the only way I can see that even has a chance of making this absurd scenario somewhat doable.


I agree. Fascism could never make much progress in a country with a strong Parliamentary tradition with three well organized political parties that were good at absorbing any newcomers.

Even the SDP in the 1980's couldn't make a real breakthrough even when they had a mostly friendly media and the country had mass unemployment and a divided Labour Party.
 
Have the tories in power in 1930-1. Labour rejects Mosely's proposals. The New Party gets 35% in an election and an overall majaority, ossie shows hiss fascims after taking power
 

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The Abdication Crisis goes very bad. Baldwin, Attlee and Samuel had made an agreement to refuse to form a government unless Edward abdicated.

Eddie tries a Churchill government that falls, then His Majesty gives Mosley a shot.



OR you could try it in a Central Power victory where a BUF-analogue comes to power in Britain, stressing Corporatism as a Third Way out of Depression and Ignominy.
 
What about in a TL in which the Allies loose WW1 for whatever number of PODs would that improve the chances of Mosley gaining more power than OTL? Also POD could be added where he avoids the plane crash in WW1 that left him with an injury and limp that hindered his preformance and reduced him to a desk job. That way he could be more active at the battlefront and achieve accomplishments he could use to boost his image after the War by making himself into war hero.
 
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William Joyce, on the far left, with Oswald Mosley in 1934

Can we make william joyce minister of "Truth"
 
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