samcster94
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The goal, with a POD of 1991, is to have a Communist be elected or seize power in Russia. They cannot rebuild the Soviet Union though, but can act like Putin in some form.
The goal, with a POD of 1991, is to have a Communist be elected or seize power in Russia. They cannot rebuild the Soviet Union though, but can act like Putin in some form.
Easy, have some scandal about Yeltsin come out just before the 1996 election. Zyuganov subsequently wins the 1996 election and Russia is now being led by the communists again. At this point they'd be more like China style communists though, meaning they'd be more nationalist than communist and working toward a mixed economy. Boy, are the oligarchs going to hate that. Anyway, the communists cannot hope to be more incompetent than Yeltsin was if they tried, so they might be able to stave off total economic collapse and make 1990s Russia a somewhat better place to live.
Zyuganov did win the 1996 election, the election was literally rigged against him to hand it to Yeltsin. Yeltsin had support that makes any of Putin's elections look 100% fair, free, and legitimate. Even with all that, there's still reason to believe Zyuganov was the legitimate winner. And Dmitri Medvedev once said, "There is hardly any doubt who won [that race]. It was not Boris Nikolaevich Yeltsin."
The 1996 one is the most obvious way, but there are other roads, especially in a Putin-less Russia. What if Yeltsin appoints one as PM?
True, it'd be ugly if and when they did take over in the 90's(or later w/o Putin/Putinclone).The oligarchs would cry bloody murder if Yeltsin appointed a communist to any position of importance. The communists retaking power means nationalization of key industries that were under oligarch control after 1991. They stand to lose a lot.
The West would also be pretty upset, and while the West didn't have a massive amount of influence in post-Soviet Russia it had enough to make Yeltsin think twice before naming a Communist as PM.The oligarchs would cry bloody murder if Yeltsin appointed a communist to any position of importance. The communists retaking power means nationalization of key industries that were under oligarch control after 1991. They stand to lose a lot.
Givne that OTL Yeltsin mooted the idea of banning the Communists, this is ASB.The 1996 one is the most obvious way, but there are other roads, especially in a Putin-less Russia. What if Yeltsin appoints one as PM?
True, but my only requirement is for Yeltsin to be gone in some form(election,death etc ...),and for conditions to lead to Communists taking back over. I never said it would be pretty as this is Russia we are talking about.Givne that OTL Yeltsin mooted the idea of banning the Communists, this is ASB.
The 1996 election was not "hard rigged": it was "soft rigged", which basically meant the margin of victory (iirc it was like 55-40) is something approximating the actual votes but Yeltsin had significant advantage because of control over all TV media (which covered up Yeltsin's health issues and fake newsed Zyuganov) and laundering state $$$ into campaign finance money (he had $100 million when officially he only used $3 million). They also ran a third party spoiler to Zyuganov (Alexander Lebed).Zyuganov did win the 1996 election, the election was literally rigged against him to hand it to Yeltsin. Yeltsin had support that makes any of Putin's elections look 100% fair, free, and legitimate. Even with all that, there's still reason to believe Zyuganov was the legitimate winner. And Dmitri Medvedev once said, "There is hardly any doubt who won [that race]. It was not Boris Nikolaevich Yeltsin."
Everyone knew it was fraudalous, they voted for Yeltsin anyway. It was "better the crook than the Communist"Electoral fraud has been alleged but, depending on the source, it isn't sure how much of an impact it made on the outcome of the election. I'm aware of what Medvedev said though. The required PoDs would then either be: a) Zyuganov winning despite the fraud or b) the fraud being exposed.
Except MUCH worse, given Russia was in worse economic shape than India is today, and India also has a real tradition of democracy.Everyone knew it was fraudalous, they voted for Yeltsin anyway. It was "better the crook than the Communist"
Pre-election polls showed that 65% of everyone wanted to vote against Yeltsin, but 65% also didn't want Zyuganov. It was pretty US-2016ish