AHC: Communist Revolution in America

Discussion in 'Alternate History Discussion: Before 1900' started by Antonio the Komnenoi, Oct 9, 2019.

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  1. Antonio the Komnenoi A devout Monarchist

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    Since it probably needs a Pre-1900s PoD, what is necessary to turn the United States of America into the "United Socialist States of America" ?

    One of the must-happen is a radicalization of the workers by the Gilded Age, prevent the monopoly breaks and worker's rights from being achieved by Roosevelt and the Progressives, and a worsened WWI. Maybe something like the Lusitania making the US enter in 1915, and the war ending in 1917 after the US bleeds hundreds of thousands of men in the trenches. Add in an incompetent diplomacy giving in to the French and British and the Americans will believe they bleed for sake of Anglo-French Imperialism. Then throw the Spanish Flu in America and a Post-War Depression.

    Is this the perfect storm already ? Or I still need more sauce ?
     
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    The big roadblock to any Socialist mobilization-let alone revolution-is racism. A socialist revolution requires working class solidarity to cut across all other boundaries; but our timeline has seen massive white resistance to the integration of blacks in both the north and south, with things like desegregation and bussing vehemently opposed by all whites, even working class whites who had previously been victims of prejudice themselves (e.g. the vehement opposition to bussing among the Boston Irish). This racial rift within the working class is a major impediment to any socialist movement.
     
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    Agreed, and in order to change that to some small degree, you need to make Bacon's Rebellion successful in overthrowing the planter elite of Virginia. Bacon's Rebellion saw indentured servants and slaves both team up in a kinda proto-socialist manner (well as proto as 1670s can be) but after that, the elites learned their lesson and really focused hard on upping the Racism as a divide and conquer strategy. Also why they switched from indentured servants to more slaves.

    Having Bacon's Rebellion succeed and racism not be amplified won't erase racism, or make it so there won't be slavery, but the amplification of those things won't occur, and perhaps it can pay the groundwork for later generations to have more class solidarity and not less.
     
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