AHC: Chinese Muslim dynasty

The challenge is the Chinese Muslim Dynasty, a POD before 1900.

What'll happen if the Chinese Muslims ascended as the ruling Emperors of China? Would there be a way for a Muslims rule China? Is there going to be any much changes as of result?

I have several ideas but I'd like to know everyone's thoughts on the subject.
 
I can see a muslim dynasty rising in China, but only if a substantial population of the country is already muslim. I'd say 30-33% is enough.
And even if a muslim dynasty takes power, i'm afraid it'll have to adapt to chinese customs and traditions. Maybe we could see some kind of sufi islam with confucian syncretisms being the emperor's religion.
 
Hui Muslims have a place in Chinese society, so I can see it happening. It'd turn out much like India under the Mughals, with a tiny Muslim minority being indistinguishable from other dynasties, with perhaps the exception of an avoidance of pork dishes among the nobility and the court.
 
It would have to occur following a destruction of Abbasid power and the extinguishing of their own domination of Islamic doctrine. Otherwise, I cannot imagine any situation wherein, an Emperor of China wound ever mint coins in Arabic and in the name of the Amr al-Mu'minin.
 
Sounds hard (also something out of my nightmares - do they also want to CONQUER THE WORLD MWHAHAHAHAHAHA?).

Btw, wans't western Liao sort of a reverse-Muslim China, with a Confucian chinese-ish dinasty ruling over muslims?
 
Taking this quote from the thread about Islamic Chinese Dynasty. I think the scenarios here below seems good.

Semi-plausible scenarios:
1. Huang Chao's rebellion against the Tang during the 9th Century doesn't end in a xenophobic bloodbath with the Muslims of Quanzhou, Guangzhou etc. being massacred by the rebels. Islam maintains a presence amongst the rich trading cities of China, which forms the nucleus for an Islamic dynasty later on.

2. One of the many Islamic leaders during the rebellions of the Yuan Dynasty rises to supreme power and founds an Islamic dynasty. The most famous of these leaders being Lan Yu (who OTL served Zhu Yuanzhang of the Ming).

3. Hong Xiuquan converts to Islam rather than to Christianity and instigates the Taiping Rebellion. With a larger Islamic presence in Qing China during that time, his rebellion succeeds and he founds an Islamic Empire.

Less plausible scenarios
1. Islam spreads more aggressively into Mongolia or Tibet during the 8th Century, paving the way for an Islam-dominated foreign tribe conquering significant chunks of China after the fall of the Tang.

2. During the Mongolian civil wars after the death of Mongke, have Ariq Boke defeat Kublai Khan and also suppress the emerging Chagatai Khanate. Ariq Boke refuses the 'softness' of Chinese life and rules the entire 'Yuan' realm from Central Asia. Over time this results in the Mongolians becoming Islamic.

3. Hui rebellions during the Ming and Qing dynasties result in the establishment of a new Islamic dynasty.

If you ask me about mine, well, one of my currents ideas for the Chinese Muslim Dynasty started with one of the Ming Emperors. Mebbe Hongwu or one of his successors like Zhengde converted to Islam, contributing large numbers of Muslims to present-day.

OTOH, mebbe Kublai or one of the Yuan Emperors converted to Islam for political reasons.
 
Taking this quote from the thread about Islamic Chinese Dynasty. I think the scenarios here below seems good.



If you ask me about mine, well, one of my currents ideas for the Chinese Muslim Dynasty started with one of the Ming Emperors. Mebbe Hongwu or one of his successors like Zhengde converted to Islam, contributing large numbers of Muslims to present-day.

OTOH, mebbe Kublai or one of the Yuan Emperors converted to Islam for political reasons.
In my opinion,the only way Ming Dynasty could ever convert and Islamise to any degree of significance would be under either Zhu Yuanzhang or Zhu Di.Those two were the only emperors who had the ability and strength to enact something as drastic as this.The other emperors were mostly had their powers restricted by the bureaucracy.

It's suspected nowadays that both Zhengde and Tianqi were assassinated.Both of them were anti-bureaucrat and both of them somehow 'fell into the river and became terminally ill'.
 
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