The rebels were the threat not Koxinga because if the rebels sacked Macabebe and Manila the Spanish would have lost Luzon completely..
And who would take their place?
The rebels were the threat not Koxinga because if the rebels sacked Macabebe and Manila the Spanish would have lost Luzon completely..
In that Scenario, Koxinga might be interested in a part of Visayas if he is seriously interested in gaining a part of the Philippines with the help of the rebels..And who would take their place?
In that Scenario, Koxinga might be interested in a part of Visayas if he is seriously interested in gaining a part of the Philippines with the help of the rebels..
In this scenario, the Dutch might take the place of the Spanish..
Koxinga would ally with the rebels..since the rebels are from the area north of Manila which had no historic ties to China, the area South of Manila, the Batangas area would be the likeliest area to be ceded to Koxinga...I think Koxinga would be a good ally to the rebel state against the Dutch and the Spanish, the Qing would just ignore Koxinga like what happened to Lanfang..Considering Koxinga's original base of operations, he'd probably much prefer to take Luzon himself. As for Visayas, they'd stay far more loyal to Spain, considering the alternative is the Dutch heretic and the slaving Moro infidel.
That is a very unfounded assumption.the Qing would just ignore Koxinga like what happened to Lanfang
If the "Koxingers" conquered any part of the Philippines and established proper control there (as opposed to settling down under indigenous rulers), the Qing would follow them.
That is a very unfounded assumption.
Most basically, let's look at population. A Dutch investigator in 1828 estimated the Chinese population of West Borneo at 27,000. These were divided into two large groups, those under Malay rule and those under the power of independent gongsi republics. The latter demographic was also divided into multiple federations, the most powerful not being Lanfang but the Heshun Zongting (Dutch: Fosjoen Tjoengthang), and there were many other gongsi states besides these two.[1] My point is that Lanfang or Heshun could not have controlled more than a few thousand people and a few hundred soldiers. By contrast, the Zheng state ruled some 120,000 Han civilians and - critically - had tens of thousands of disciplined and motivated Ming loyalist troops. The Zheng state was more powerful by a degree of magnitude, and if it controlled the Philippines it would be even more powerful and even more dangerous.
Second, the Zheng state and Lanfang had totally divergent origins and power. The Zheng state of Koxinga was an anti-Qing polity, a polity that had escaped to Taiwan (and the Philippines ITTL) precisely to avoid Qing conquest and continue harassing Beijing's control over the coast and dominating China's foreign trade. The Zheng state essentially prevented the Qing from reopening China to maritime trade and thus directly contributed to what the Qing believed was the cause of the early Kangxi depression. Lanfang and their gongsi contemporaries were basically miners-turned-state builders much further away from China who actively sought Qing approval.
If the "Koxingers" conquered any part of the Philippines and established proper control there (as opposed to settling down under indigenous rulers), the Qing would follow them.
[1] There's a nice map of gongsi in Golddiggers, Farmers, and Traders in the "Chinese Districts" of West Kalimantan, Indonesia, page 57, but I doubt this forum allows screenshots of copyrighted text.
And so comes the flood, which achieves the AHC.
Koxinga would be given land rather than conquer anything, the Koxinga threat was basically a lie to cover up the shame that the Spanish might be toppled down by rebels, The Qing would ally with the Dutch instead like what they tried in Taiwan if the Rebels in Luzon give land to Koxinga...
Your historical revisionism is not useful, unless you can give us actual sources.