AHC: Celtic Dominated British Isles

MichiganNationalist1837

How can the British Isles be dominated by a Celtic state or states? How would this state's society evolve differently than England's? No POD before the fall of Rome is allowed.
 
Pangur

Pangur

Donor
It was at one stage so I assume you mean today and that you are referring to britiany. That being the case then what happened in Ireland might get you there. The resident Celtics pretty much absorbed the invaders and as they phrase goes become Irish that Irish.
 
Umbric Man

Umbric Man

Pangur said:
That helps you with the Anglo-saxons however then you have for example the Normans. By assimilating the invadors you also aquire their miitary know how
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I'd assume the Normans would be as OTL - they can influence the local culture, but just as OTL England remained overall Germanic so will these British Isles remain overall Celtic.
 
LHB

LHB

Umbric Man said:
I'd assume the Normans would be as OTL - they can influence the local culture, but just as OTL England remained overall Germanic so will these British Isles remain overall Celtic.
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Any PoD that averts or downplays the importance of the Anglo-Saxon invasions would possibly butterfly away the Normans or at least see different people in charge with different goals and objectives. Nothing about being Norman guaranteed that William the Bastard would seek the crown of England.
 
Umbric Man

Umbric Man

LHB said:
Any PoD that averts or downplays the importance of the Anglo-Saxon invasions would possibly butterfly away the Normans or at least see different people in charge with different goals and objectives. Nothing about being Norman guaranteed that William the Bastard would seek the crown of England.
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Well, yeah, but I'm also just responding to the general concept of Norman invasions taking over local areas as in England-Naples-Ireland-Normandy-etc. etc. etc.
 

Gloss

But how do you really butterfly those invasions? It´s either that there were already Saxons or Germanics there(I heard those theory) or the invasion was pretty much massive, signaling there was a strong push to invade the island.
 

Lindseyman

1.Somehow get rid of the tradition of splitting lands between all surviving sons. (Which is probably quite hard !).
2. It must have been the Anglo-Saxons that culturally absorbed those Britons that remained in their conquests. Why didn't it happen the other way round. There would have been far more Britons than invaders. The answer is probably that as far as the farmers etc that stayed not much changed except their overlords. There was seemingly a "vanishing" of the educated elite.
3. Now for the heresy :evilsmile: I think that non Romanised Britons would have absorbed the Anglo-Saxons and "Celtic" countries would have survived in what became Lloegr.
 
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