AHC: Bulgaria as part of Yugoslavia
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issue is that most of Yugoslavia is made up of Balkan minority groups.. Bulgaria is huge compared to Serbia or Croatia .. Also population size.
it would automatically be the giant in the room.
it's not impossible, but it would shift everything..
last but not least, who will be king? This will boil down to serbia and Bulgaria. these people are culturally similar .. But like family, choose seperate housing for a reason
Maybe it could happen if Tito is able to gain land at the expense of Albania, Austria, Italy and Greece, adding some non-Bulgarian peoples to the Balkan mix...
...but a Yugoslavia this big would probably be even more of a pain in the ass to keep somewhat stable than in OTL.
the 1934 coup in Bulgaria succeeds or the Tito-Stalin split never happens are the only ways I could see it happen
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Maybe it could happen if Tito is able to gain land at the expense of Albania, Austria, Italy and Greece, adding some non-Bulgarian peoples to the Balkan mix...
...but a Yugoslavia this big would probably be even more of a pain in the ass to keep somewhat stable than in OTL.
But if it works, balkanisation would mean the opposite as in OTL.
One thing's for sure, that Slovenia could get messy in case of an ATL breakup of Yugoslavia - I'm hearing something right now, and I'm fairly sure it's the sound of a thousand accordions being played in a parallel universe.
just a reminder.. Bulgarians and serbians were and are not best of friends. the are not fraternal enemies.. but they are not like best of friends.
Bulgaria was and is a powerful nation on its own in relations to its neighbors. I just don't see them play second fiddle to the serbians
however on that note, this creates a counter balance and might be better for the over all stability, but I am going to doubt this.
not saying its impossible.. but im going to say unlikely
Bulgaria was and is a powerful nation on its own in relations to its neighbors. I just don't see them play second fiddle to the serbians
however on that note, this creates a counter balance and might be better for the over all stability, but I am going to doubt this.
not saying its impossible.. but im going to say unlikely
I have been told different versions, whether or not languages are mutually intelligible? my understanding at least Macedonia understands Bulgarians?
my view the interwar period after Bulgaria has been greatly reduced some regime might force them together but they would not want to lose Bosnia? even if possibly let Croatia depart Yugoslavia?
a present day Ser-Bulgaria incorporating Vardar Macedonia would certainly be an interesting situation.
I'm not saying its impossible..
strange things happen..
. Will respond more when on computerit's a matter of nationalism and politics that separate the two, history and independence, history and war, history and well .. It's complicated as the region always is.
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Stalin and tito were bound to clash. If Stalin dies in 45 shortly after the war ends Tito might be able to get Bulgaria and Albania depending on Stalins successor
Albania perhaps but I doubt that Tito would even wanted Bulgaria in any case. Too many problems being worth of annexation.
1945-1947 it was proposed and negotiations occurred, all it would have needed is Stalin to say yes ( big change to OTL ) and the Bulgarian Communist party would have rubber stamped it ( so spineless they supposedly proposed to make Bulgaria's official language Russian at one point ). The idea also included incorporating Albania ( regardless of its wishes ) and would have redefined unstable but it could have happened
basically some army officers did a coup where they wanted to unify with Yugoslavia, but while they did succeed in the short term, the Tsar forced the officers to resign and ruled as an absolute monarch until his death
if they could get everyone to get along.. that has potential to be southern powerhouse.. shame all these related peoples cant put things aside long enough to make a stronger nation. ( not just military.. more like economic and collective.Maybe it could happen if Tito is able to gain land at the expense of Albania, Austria, Italy and Greece, adding some non-Bulgarian peoples to the Balkan mix...
...but a Yugoslavia this big would probably be even more of a pain in the ass to keep somewhat stable than in OTL.
talk about control.. black sea, Adriatic and agean ..holy crap .. you gave them northern Greece!
Religion is one hell of a drug, and when Austria and Russia are your chief dealers, things can get very messy indeed.