With a POD after Maggie Thatchers' electon, have the British miners' strinke (84 - 85) succeed, preferably without the need of other major strikes in the followin years.

What will be the major economic and political consequences of the miners' victory?
 
There would be no better outcome for the mining industry as due to the strike the power stations started buying coal from New Zealand and continued after the strike due to fear of disrupted supply. The mines still close and its not Maggies fault this time! She is less divisive than OTL in the late 80s early 90's even possibly surviving the coup that outed her!
 
There would be no better outcome for the mining industry as due to the strike the power stations started buying coal from New Zealand and continued after the strike due to fear of disrupted supply. The mines still close and its not Maggies fault this time! She is less divisive than OTL in the late 80s early 90's even possibly surviving the coup that outed her!

So basically Britain becomes Rumsfieldia...

Although coup is a strong word for inner party politics.
 
The sector was threatened long before Thatcher. There's an oft quoted remark (that I'm not sure is true) that just as many pits were closed under the previous Labour government than under Thatcher. In addition to coal being transported from New Zealand, the Warsaw Pact, that bastion of the worker, had coal shipped from Poland as well. In many ways I feel it was the last gasp of the workers in a dying industry but the way that Thatcher went about with breaking the NUM basically left whole communities devastated and thousands unemployed with no prospects. I think a 'victory' for the miners wouldn't be to keep the pits open necessarily but to slowly phase out all but the still profitable pits, and there were more than people think, whilst training former miners and developing their local communities so that there's alternative employment and not so many people are left destitute by the crisis. In other words, slowly wean them off the drug instead of the disaster that was going cold turkey.
 

shiftygiant

Gone Fishin'
So basically Britain becomes Rumsfieldia..

Although coup is a strong word for inner party politics.
Thatcher was many things to many people, but she wasn't an AnCap, and she would have lost to Kinnock in '92 if she hung on that long.

Remove Scargill and the militant types from the NUM Leadership and the strikes have a chance of being successful; basically the best the Miners could hope for is a slower phasing out of the mines, which Scargill ironically accelerated with his actions. Assuming by 'Thatchers Election' you mean 1979, and we assume that a success is forcing the Goverment to blink and come to the negotiation table, have the strikes occur in 1981/82 when the Thatcher Goverment was at its weakest and when Thatcher would want to avoid a repeat of the Winter of Discontent.
 
very little change, except of course the fact that the miners and their families weren't impoverished by the strike , instead being paid until the closure of the pit they worked in , also without the supply uncertainties it may be that more of the potentially economic to machine work pits stay open longer ...
 
Remove Scargill for one..... the man was a buffoon

Two have a campaign based on the Engineers strike for a shorter working week in 1989-90

A little known and successful blow against Thatcher.

They still won't maintain the status quo though
 

Coulsdon Eagle

Monthly Donor
Removing Scargill is a given.

Hold votes for strike action - the result will be overwhelmingly in favour and effectively protect the NUM's funds against sequestration. Refusing to do so because Scargill disagreed with the law was a massive tactical own goal.

And don't start the strike in summer when the coals stocks are high!

(Seriously, I think Arthur would have made a great contribution as a member of the Imperial Japanese General Staff)
 
If that woman had been forced to give in by the miners she would have had to resign as Prime Minister.

Mrs Thatcher had one certainty - to learn by the mistakes of the Heath Government, and not to lose to any Trade Union blackmail. She was elected to govern, and govern she would, that is the Government decides government policy, not a Trade Union trying to flex its muscles!
 
Mrs Thatcher had one certainty - to learn by the mistakes of the Heath Government, and not to lose to any Trade Union blackmail. She was elected to govern, and govern she would, that is the Government decides government policy, not a Trade Union trying to flex its muscles!
And that's why she'd have had to resign if the miners had won. Once it became a matter of who governs the country rather than miners jobs she had to win. I didn't like Mrs Thatcher but with the miners strike she was right.
 
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