AHC: Anglo-Danish Union

Create a union of England and Denmark with a POD after 1400.

Whether temporary personal unions or alliance-cum-federation
 
Queen Anne's heirs don't miscarry or die. The Danish king and his heirs but for Anne's Proginy die.

Prince George, Duke of Cumberland's brother, Christian V, had quite a few children, and, being a King in the second generation of a hereditary monarchy, that's unlikely to change. However, his son, Frederick IV, only had two children out of nine survive (from three different women) so it wouldn't be hard to have those die as well - in fact, its even easier than that, because Denmark was under Salic Law, so only Christian VI has to die young, and his sister died childless anyway. That leaves Christian V's other children, all of whom died childless before their brother OTL. This leaves a surviving son of Prince George and Queen Anne as King of Denmark and Norway.

However, Christian V had a bastard son whose daughter married Christian_August,_Duke_of_Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Augustenburg, who was the next heir of the House of Oldenburg, although not technically part of the Danish line of succession, not being descended from Frederick III. He and his descendants would be focuses for Danish separatists, and were IOTL involved in the Schleswig-Holstein Question.

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Another possible way to do this would be to keep Cnut's descendants on the throne, either through Harthacnut surviving (a tall order, as the whole family seems to have had a medical problem that stopped them from surviving very long) or by Sweyn Estridson or Knud IV conquering the place from the Normans. I've no idea how possible this one is.

Alternatively, an Anglo-Kalmar Union could be achieved by Eric of Pomerania having children with his wife, the daughter of Henry IV of England. However, there is the small matter of the Wars of the Roses to contend with, and anyway, the Lancastrians believed in Salic Law. Maybe if the Duke of York dies sometime before 1441? And there's still going to be opposition from Sweden at the very least, let alone Denmark itself. This scenario would probably lead to the Beauforts inheriting the English throne and the Pomeranians the Danish.

The only other possibility I can think of is the Hanoverians dying off and the throne going to the Oldenburgs. Unfortunately, the British princesses who married Kings of Denmark were the youngest daughters of their fathers, so there's going to have to be a lot of convenient deaths.
 
The only other option I can think of is Frederick II of Denmark, who was mooted as a possible husband for Elizabeth I of England. If they married and had male issue, those children would inherit both kingdoms. Now, that has obvious problems (beyond Elizabeth's personal opinions on marriage, the previous experience with a Royal Consort hadn't exactly worked well), but it's probably the easiest apart from Queen Anne's kids.
 
Eric VII has children by his wife, Philippa of Lancaster (daughter of Henry IV). A descendant of his gets the throne in 1485 instead of Henry Tudor.
 
I had an idea where Anne Boleyn gives a son after Elizabeth.
This leads to Elisabeth marrying Fred II. Then the heirs of Alt-Edward die leading to the Danish King becoming the heir
 
Just out of curiosity, how long could such a union realistically last? And if it does happen, would it result in any kind of societal, linguistic or religious change? I'd certainly hope so under the circumstances, given the historical links between the English and Danes.

Also, what would the other Scandinavians think of such a union in, say, the 17th. Century?
 

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Just out of curiosity, how long could such a union realistically last? And if it does happen, would it result in any kind of societal, linguistic or religious change? I'd certainly hope so under the circumstances, given the historical links between the English and Danes.

Also, what would the other Scandinavians think of such a union in, say, the 17th. Century?

Well, Norway was in a Union with Denmark, so Norway would be a part of tha Anglo- Danish Union. It would be a challenge for Sweden for sure.
 
Also, what would the other Scandinavians think of such a union in, say, the 17th. Century?

Sweden would go absolutely insane. A united Denmark-Norway-England would be a major threat to Sweden's power and would ensure Denmark's dominance of Scandinavia. I could see Sweden declaring war to prevent it from happening. Whether or not that would stop it, however, depends on the other great powers: France, Spain, Russia. Russia and Denmark had...somewhat amicable relations if memory serves, and Russia wouldn't mind a credible western counter-balance to Sweden.
I don't see France and Spain being much exited about the prospect, though.

Also, there is the matter of religion: Though both Denmark-Norway and England was non-RC, they were different branches of non-RC: Denmark-Norway was solidly Lutheran, and England Anglican. There's going to be some difficult theological conversations there...
 
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Sweden would go absolutely insane. A united Denmark-Norway-England would be a major threat to Sweden's power and would ensure Denmark's dominance of Scandinavia. I could see Sweden declaring war to prevent it from happening. Whether or not that would stop it, however, depends on the other great powers: France, Spain, Russia. Russia and Denmark had...somewhat amicable relations if memory serves, and Russia wouldn't mind a credible western counter-balance to Sweden.
I don't see France and Spain being much exited about the prospect, though.

Post 1721 Denmark was looking for a new alliance having had the British one terminated.
Russia was interested in getting Sweden off its back and keeping the Sound open so why not go for an alliance with both! Furthering own interest's and keeping the two small combatants at bay with a possible of playing them off on each other if one should fall on Russia. ;)
France was the other possible alliance for Denmark though the Russian seemed more promising.
 
17 pregnancies, most of which ended in miscarriage or stillbirths, and those that didn't died young...

That poor woman. I don't know how anyone could handle that.
 
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