Sometime ago I've made a DBWI thread by using this scenario, and now I think this will be interesting to discuss.
So...
-what would be the best and easiest way for both Ottoman Empire and Qing Dynasty to industrialize themselves? A series of reform-minded Sultans/Emperors? Would that enough?
-how could we prevent the modernization or westernization of both Russia and Japan during colonial age?
-and the most important question of all, assuming that both scenarios did happen, what changes and effects that would be brought to the rest of the world? (especially to European colonialism)