AHC:An evil world

The way the deacon described it, I was basing it on that and and world with no Martin Luther, so the church is just that THE church and THE only church spaning the globe (like the fear Americans felt when JFK was elected - a president controlled by the pope)

The power of the Church would be severely limited by how much corruption it was facing at the time, how charismatic and influential the pope in power could be, and by how much the rulers of Europe really gave a damn about what he said.

In short, they weren't sincerely that powerful unless they had the clout of a state backing them up. Lot's of 'soft power' in their ability to influence masses and powerful individuals (occasionally, depends on the people in question) and practically zilch hard power in terms of soldiers and coin outside of Rome's immediate area.

Quite frankly your source was a terrible one.
 
The way the deacon described it, I was basing it on that and and world with no Martin Luther, so the church is just that THE church and THE only church spaning the globe (like the fear Americans felt when JFK was elected - a president controlled by the pope)

Decon is more often an Anglican then a Catholic term.

Also even at the hight of the Churches power, it could not really control much out side of Rome (look at the clusterF*** of the Holy Roman Empire). It was not some type of all powerful organisation. Because the methods of communication did not allow it. The Catholic Church was not 'evil' any way. Some bad popes and polices, but so does the US (as well as every nation that has ever existed ever). This is spun by stupid (what is the term for religious discrimination, like racism). The same people (by and large) who think all Muslims are suicide bombers, or other such false hoods.

Study, find out for your self.
 
*You heard that sound? It was me, doing the mother of all sighs*
1) Inquisition isn't a short for Catholic Church...

Well, if Europe where the Catholic Church won is not evil enough for you what about Europe conquered by the Ottoman Turks?
From the very beginning I must admit that this scenario is pretty much ASB. Well it is as ASB as "winning Catholic Church" anyway...

I see two PODs for "Ottoman Europe":

1) Sultan Bayazid is not defeated by Tamerlane. So we have Osman invasion into Europe starting a century or so earlier. Europe is less consolidated, has less technological and political advancement. Europe doesn't have gold from America, no colonial Empires of Spain and Portugal and even there's still a stronghold of Muslims in the Southern Spain.

2) Sultan Mehmed the Conquerer lives 10 years more... what the hell, let's make it 20 years!
During his lifetime he did everything to change Osman Empire into exclusively military war machine. Which was too much even for the Turkish society with its' ghazi mentality. He took away lands from the most respected Turkish noble families and gave these lands to his sipahi as timars. Actually he robbed his landed aristocracy and gave their lands to his warriors.
He died too early to make these changes stick, but now he has 20 years.

IMO such Turkey could conquer Europe excluding Britain and Scandinavia.

I want to be understood properly - Ottoman Empire in its' prime was not especially evil place for its inhabitants even for Non-Muslims. It had surprisingly effective administration and tax system. Non-Muslims were admitted in the Army, Christian officials worked as tax collectors and held high offices and the like.

But the fun will start when this Universal European Osman Empire has the period of inevitable decay and disintegration. The Fanaticism of the Muslims is supposed to strengthen as it was in OTL. The oppression and corruption, that will be quite an evil world.
I guess Religious wars between Catholics and Protestants of OTL would look like child play comparing to that mess.

I remember one story from the history of Transylvania told by the Christian contemporary:
The Osman officials came to inspect Transylvanian town and demanded that the Christian nobles gave them their wives for one evening. The smart Transylvanian lords hired the local whores, dressed them in best clothes of their wives and send them to the Osman party.
That was described by a Transylvanian historian in the sense - "how smart Christian lords tricked stupid Turks".
 
Mongols screw over Europe even more, bringing plague, which destroys most of Mediterranean civilisation. Mongol successor states become rediculous weird, and do all sorts of blood sacrifice things. Catholics survive, and the remenant states kill all non-Christians mercilessly, especially Muslims, who they beleive brought the plague. Muslims and Christians fight incredibly nasty wars. Eventually, Christian Europe, which comprises of Western Germany, France, Britain, parts of Italy and Spain, and parts of Scandinavia, around 1600 become a sort of Holy Roman Empire, with the Emperor as Pope. Alot of wars of succession occur. Feudal stuff and mediveal technology remain until the 1700s, when the renaissance occurs, well not really the Renaissance, but a blooming of military technology. However, in 1710, Mongol Forces of the Warszau Khanate invade, killing alot the Germans, and depleting that population massively. HRE ships sail west, hoping to find a new homeland. They land, and begin to settle the new lands, known as the Christic Islands. However, in this America, the Aztec culture has spread around, and advanced city states exist on the Gulf of Mexico. They have also inherited the Aztec blood sacrifice stuff. Alot of bloody wars between the Christians and Natives ensue. The muslims, who are divided into a few Caliphates, then head to South Christia, and begin to convert the natives. Eventually, the Tupi Caliphate goes north, and fights the Aztecs in central america, eventually defeating them, but some remain, and flee north, while others hide in mountains, and go down and slaughter people every once in a while. Eventually, technology progresses, and in 2013, 1810s technology exists. The Kamchat Khanate, in that year, crosses by ships the Bering Straits, and enter north America, and begin to slaughter people. The HRE still exists, and has evolved to have a mega-beurocracy, and really weird Inquistion. Most of Asia is now Mongol, and made up of evil Khanates. China is part of this. India is still Hindu, but the north is Muslim and Mongol Blood Religion. The Hindus have some sort of evil thing based on caste. Australia and the Muslim world are the only nice places, and, Australia is slowly advancing, and trading cities are emerging in the north. The Muslim world is still advanced, and have a high literacy rate (comparatively), although, the Sofala and Zimbabwe Khanates fight the Bantu, who are just kind of insane, but great warriors.
 
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