AHC Americans join Central Powers but Entente wins anyway

FBKampfer

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My guess is that the British and French guns were available in bulk sooner, so could equip the new divisions more quickly than ramping up US production. Secondly, if you're going down that path of buying foreign guns then you might as well build their designs on your own production lines, to match what you already have in service. I think shipping concerns and ballistc performance would come after that.

The question is then raised, where would the US fight if they joined the CP? Canada is a certainty, but it would be tough for the US to directly aid Germany in Europe.


Once the Russians are out of the fight (and who are we kidding, keeping the Russians a going concern is a herculean task in itself), it's possible US troops could be shipped through Russia.
 
Once the Russians are out of the fight (and who are we kidding, keeping the Russians a going concern is a herculean task in itself), it's possible US troops could be shipped through Russia.

True except that Japan was a combatant from 23 august 1914 and would have to be dealt with before the US could attack Russia.
 
Russian offensive works in 1914, German Fleet suffers massive defeat in 1914, the French do better in the West, Austria does worst in the East. When the Germans ask for terms US offers to mediate, US return to pre war situation proposal seen as anti Entente escalates to limited US Vs Entente action after the RN sinks US ships bringing food relief to Germany. US declares war but German collapse in early 1915 under two front offensive happens too soon for the US to fully use its resources.
 

FBKampfer

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True except that Japan was a combatant from 23 august 1914 and would have to be dealt with before the US could attack Russia.

I suspect we would see a similar situation to WWII, though. It's not in Japan's interest to attack US shipping even if it hurts the UK, just as it wasn't in Japan's interests to draw the USSR into the fight even though it hurt Germany.

True, Japan was quite supportive as an ally literally on the other side of the world, however there's virtually no reason to think that the UK and France will be able to weaken the US, even if they manage to pull a nominal victory out of their collective ass, to the point that they'll just forget what happened in the Pacific.


In fact, aside from shipping troops over through Russia, I doubt the US will give the Pacific theater much attention. Japan is, for them, only peripherally involved at best.

And it suits both nations just fine to keep off each other's radar for the time.
 
Russian offensive works in 1914, German Fleet suffers massive defeat in 1914, the French do better in the West, Austria does worst in the East. When the Germans ask for terms US offers to mediate, US return to pre war situation proposal seen as anti Entente escalates to limited US Vs Entente action after the RN sinks US ships bringing food relief to Germany. US declares war but German collapse in early 1915 under two front offensive happens too soon for the US to fully use its resources.
to top it off, have the Schlieffen Plan include the Dutch as originally planned, the Ottomans remain neutral and Italy&Romania join in late 1914
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to top it off, have the Schlieffen Plan include the Dutch as originally planned, the Ottomans remain neutral and Italy&Romania join in late 1914
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In this scenario, Germany might lose the entire eastern region (Silesia, Danzig, Eastern Prussia) to Russia, Alsace, Moselle and Saar to France, lose the Sudetes, and have Rhenania (including the Ruhr) under Allied occupation or becoming a separate state which is either declared neutral (like Switzerland) or forced into an alliance with the Entente (with French and British bases).
France, Britain and possibly Japan share German overseas colonies.

France and Russia force heavy military limitations on Germany, but limited reparations as the war war much shorter.

Austria-Hungary is dismantled into separate kingdoms (Austria, Hungary, Czechia, Slovakia at least). Slovenes and Croats either are joined to Serbia or independent. Bosnia is joined to Serbia. Italy, Romania and Russia get everything they want.
 
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