AHC: American Spring

Have the United States go through an Arab Spring like situation. Have the oppressed people of the United States depose a dictatorial/theocratic/authoritarian government. It doesn't have to end in a civil war but if that is not possible then go ahead.
 
This might be a little too modern politics, but perhaps the Russia-Trump thing gets worse, the Republican-dominant Congress refuses to even investigate, and we end up with a "Color Revolution" right here in the US? Trump is forced to resign by massive popular protest, strikes, etc.
 
This might be a little too modern politics, but perhaps the Russia-Trump thing gets worse, the Republican-dominant Congress refuses to even investigate, and we end up with a "Color Revolution" right here in the US? Trump is forced to resign by massive popular protest, strikes, etc.
What exactly are they protesting? Bill Clinton had connections to China regarding campaign contributions and no one blinked.

Even if popular unrest exploded, the fact that the majority of anti-Trump protestors lack weapons (anti-gun), are urban (will suffer when the power is cut, the funds and trade halt, and the food runs out being encircled), and that the military and police are behind executive authority, I see protests dying out in no more than a year. This isn't Red Dawn where rural forces suited to guerilla action are battling for freedom. Protests would play right into Trump's hands allowing him to crush the Left. Americans, especially Trump supporters, hate traitors.

You want a successful revolution you need the desperation of the Depression before Communism and Fascism was discredited.
 
What exactly are they protesting? Bill Clinton had connections to China regarding campaign contributions and no one blinked.

Even if popular unrest exploded, the fact that the majority of anti-Trump protestors lack weapons (anti-gun), are urban (will suffer when the power is cut, the funds and trade halt, and the food runs out being encircled), and that the military and police are behind executive authority, I see protests dying out in no more than a year. This isn't Red Dawn where rural forces suited to guerilla action are battling for freedom. Protests would play right into Trump's hands allowing him to crush the Left. Americans, especially Trump supporters, hate traitors.

You want a successful revolution you need the desperation of the Depression before Communism and Fascism was discredited.

The "military and police are behind executive authority" part could be tricky, especially if Trump overreacts to, say, some 2X version of the women's march or the March for Science and orders them dispersed by force.

That the protesters of Tahrir Square didn't get Tianamenen'd (sp?) isn't for lack of orders to do so from On High.
 
What exactly are they protesting? Bill Clinton had connections to China regarding campaign contributions and no one blinked.

Well, Clinton didn't cancel an investigation into Chinese interference to support his election because he was tired of it being in the media, and didn't have a financial record that was hidden from the public, including sales of millions of dollars of property to Russian oligarchs.

But this is gonna get moved to Political real quick.
 
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That the protesters of Tahrir Square didn't get Tianamenen'd (sp?) isn't for lack of orders to do so from On High.[/QUOTE]

I could vaguely see this if Trump loses the popular vote in 2020, Democrats get more votes for the House, but due to gerrymandering and voter suppression the Democrats don't gain power. At this point you have how many elections in the last 20 years where the majority's been disenfranchised? Then Trump decides to impose taxes in a punitive manner to hit the blue states, and you get governors saying they're suspending payments to the federal government...
 
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That the protesters of Tahrir Square didn't get Tianamenen'd (sp?) isn't for lack of orders to do so from On High.

I could vaguely see this if Trump loses the popular vote in 2020, Democrats get more votes for the House, but due to gerrymandering and voter suppression the Democrats don't gain power. At this point you have how many elections in the last 20 years where the majority's been disenfranchised? Then Trump decides to impose taxes in a punitive manner to hit the blue states, and you get governors saying they're suspending payments to the federal government...
Federal money trumps, no pun intended, state money. The states refuse to pay they'll find their infrastructure collapsing, schools closing, social programs unfunded, etc. That's why threatening to pull federal funds is an old tactic to influence state policy (18 being the legal age for alcohol being one of the more recent).

With roughly 50% of this country not even voting, most won't care as long as their lifestyles stay intact. You need REAL problems like high unemployment, starvation, and a general sense tomorrow will be worse than today. People are deaf to claims of corruption by and large these days desensitized by the 24 hour proclamations that is media.
 
In that case, what are some OTHER presidents that could provoke such a thing?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Corn_Rebellion

Something like this, if the American Expeditionary Force in France gets a bloody nose? Wilson starts having protesters rounded up using the Sedition Act and finally pisses off one too many people?
Why not Garner botching the economy following an FDR assassination? He hated unions and supported attacks on organizers as well as refused to accept deficit spending.

Maybe Nixon refuses to resign leading to some real problems as it gets dirty.

Polk annexes more of Mexico and it later rebels.

Pierce goes through with his expansionist ideas despite public disapproval.

Lincoln, already fighting a civil war, sees things turn south (har har) as he can't win a victory, tightens dictatorial authority, and incites another rebellion in the union.

The Hayes fiasco regarding his election (public reaction forces the Republicans to reconsider fearing backlash) makes him renege on the promise of ending Reconstruction leading to a wave of discontent down south and a possible guerilla war.

All I can think of.
 
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