Modern Imperialism
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I usually don’t get into conspiracy theories but does anyone else think it was suspicious how Kennedy got assassinated only a month after the Valachi hearing which his own brother headed(he also got assassinated later on). I don’t think Kennedy or his brother actually worked with the mafia but I do think their dad did(their dad was a shitty person). Their experiences with their dad and being from a Irish community probably gave them much more knowledge about the mafia and how organized crime worked more so then your average wasp American who didn’t deal with it as often. Their communities were the most plagued by these groups and many in the younger generations(like JFK and Robert) within those communities wanted to start distancing themselves from this and getting rid of it from their communities(notice how Kennedy depicted himself as just American and try to make Catholics and Irish appear assimilated. The mafia hurt that and many within their own communities knew that). Honestly the mafia probably thought they finally got “one of there boys in the White House” not realizing their intentions towards them and felt like they were “traitors” once they went after them(rats and perceived traitors have always been the most hated people in many American communities. The only group that is hated more in the American criminal world is pedos).
Think about it, the mafia had ties to CIA, FBI, law enforcement, politicians, and Cuban exiles(mafia was pissed at Kennedy over lost of Cuba to communism because Havana was supposed to be original Las Vegas. Mafia had heavy ties with the batiste regime and even worked with CIA to train Cuban exiles in retaking the place for them). They had resources and knowledge to do a lot. If you have people in FBI, CIA, and law enforcement it wouldn’t be that hard to know the president movements or plans(think Dallas. They also been training at assassination methods while trying to figure out how to kill Castro). Notice how the government went after the mafia hard after the assassination of Kennedy. I think the government had a “O shit!” movement when they found out a bunch of criminals just killed the president but couldn’t admit it to the public openly because people would figure out those people have been in the government for years and government actually worked with them at times(imagine public reaction to this especially during the 60s). Government was covering its own ass but knew something had to be done since the mafia overstepped itself. The 60s and 70s had a lot of infighting within the US government. You had the CIA and FBI having issues with each other. You also now have Italian and Irish mafia who now have international connections due to ties to Europe(Irish mafia/IRA isn’t good for British relations). The Italian mafia right now still brings heroin into the US through its connections with the Sicilian mafia who gets it from the Middle East.
From the House Select Committee on Assassinations wrote: "The committee believes, on the basis of the evidence available to it, that the national syndicate of organized crime, as a group, was not involved in the assassination of President Kennedy, but that the available evidence does not preclude the possibility that individual members may have been involved". They basically contradicted themselves in this statement and no one picked up on it at the time. They nearly admit the mafia is involved. If you can’t preclude individual mafia member from being involved in the plot that means you can’t preclude his whole mafia either. Their statement is a oxymoron and complete bullshit. I think the Kennedy assassination and 60s prove that US could arguably be called a mafia state or one heavily influenced by it. The Irish mafia here was sending weapons and funding to the IRA openly in Boston. They literally had donation things at Boston pubs for the IRA. One of the reasons US might have cut back on immigration from Ireland and Italy in the 60s was probably because they feared newly arrived people from there would keep feeding into the mafia here.
If you want American mafia state Cuba is a good bet if they don’t fall to communism. If you want one in US itself or more blatant one have JFK and his brother being more like their dad with the mafia and have Cuba stay under Batista/mafia control. Or even have Kennedy dad stay in better health much longer. He is definitely the type to politic behind his kids back and push them into doing certain things if he was still physically able to at the time(he lost his voice in 61 right?). American government and politicians care greatly about appearances. For example, when Kennedy won election many thought their should be a recount due to possible dirty or illegal voting practices. But Nixon said no because he thought it would make the US look bad especially with the Cold War going on. He could have easily pushed for a recount. These groups are extremely backhanded but clever. They went on that long without the US government even having a clear idea about them. The only reason they failed is because they got too obvious when people from their own communities started going after them. There is a reason many American Hollywood movies depict Italian and Irish Americans going undercover to take down the mob. It is because many did in real life especially the more assimilated they became. Why do you think mobsters are often depicted like more old school Italian or Irish people “straight off the boat” while the one who is a cop or undercover is depicted as much more American. Think of George Stone from untouchables or the younger Irish characters in the departed. Then compare them to their older Irish and Italian counterparts on how they are depicted.
Think about it, the mafia had ties to CIA, FBI, law enforcement, politicians, and Cuban exiles(mafia was pissed at Kennedy over lost of Cuba to communism because Havana was supposed to be original Las Vegas. Mafia had heavy ties with the batiste regime and even worked with CIA to train Cuban exiles in retaking the place for them). They had resources and knowledge to do a lot. If you have people in FBI, CIA, and law enforcement it wouldn’t be that hard to know the president movements or plans(think Dallas. They also been training at assassination methods while trying to figure out how to kill Castro). Notice how the government went after the mafia hard after the assassination of Kennedy. I think the government had a “O shit!” movement when they found out a bunch of criminals just killed the president but couldn’t admit it to the public openly because people would figure out those people have been in the government for years and government actually worked with them at times(imagine public reaction to this especially during the 60s). Government was covering its own ass but knew something had to be done since the mafia overstepped itself. The 60s and 70s had a lot of infighting within the US government. You had the CIA and FBI having issues with each other. You also now have Italian and Irish mafia who now have international connections due to ties to Europe(Irish mafia/IRA isn’t good for British relations). The Italian mafia right now still brings heroin into the US through its connections with the Sicilian mafia who gets it from the Middle East.
From the House Select Committee on Assassinations wrote: "The committee believes, on the basis of the evidence available to it, that the national syndicate of organized crime, as a group, was not involved in the assassination of President Kennedy, but that the available evidence does not preclude the possibility that individual members may have been involved". They basically contradicted themselves in this statement and no one picked up on it at the time. They nearly admit the mafia is involved. If you can’t preclude individual mafia member from being involved in the plot that means you can’t preclude his whole mafia either. Their statement is a oxymoron and complete bullshit. I think the Kennedy assassination and 60s prove that US could arguably be called a mafia state or one heavily influenced by it. The Irish mafia here was sending weapons and funding to the IRA openly in Boston. They literally had donation things at Boston pubs for the IRA. One of the reasons US might have cut back on immigration from Ireland and Italy in the 60s was probably because they feared newly arrived people from there would keep feeding into the mafia here.
If you want American mafia state Cuba is a good bet if they don’t fall to communism. If you want one in US itself or more blatant one have JFK and his brother being more like their dad with the mafia and have Cuba stay under Batista/mafia control. Or even have Kennedy dad stay in better health much longer. He is definitely the type to politic behind his kids back and push them into doing certain things if he was still physically able to at the time(he lost his voice in 61 right?). American government and politicians care greatly about appearances. For example, when Kennedy won election many thought their should be a recount due to possible dirty or illegal voting practices. But Nixon said no because he thought it would make the US look bad especially with the Cold War going on. He could have easily pushed for a recount. These groups are extremely backhanded but clever. They went on that long without the US government even having a clear idea about them. The only reason they failed is because they got too obvious when people from their own communities started going after them. There is a reason many American Hollywood movies depict Italian and Irish Americans going undercover to take down the mob. It is because many did in real life especially the more assimilated they became. Why do you think mobsters are often depicted like more old school Italian or Irish people “straight off the boat” while the one who is a cop or undercover is depicted as much more American. Think of George Stone from untouchables or the younger Irish characters in the departed. Then compare them to their older Irish and Italian counterparts on how they are depicted.