AHC: American Haiti

Florida was barely controlled by Spain when it was sold to the Americans. I would assume any purchase of Haiti after the revolution would be at a steep discount.
 
Florida was barely controlled by Spain when it was sold to the Americans. I would assume any purchase of Haiti after the revolution would be at a steep discount.

I doubt America would seriously commit to an island full of rebellious slaves that have wiped out multiple armies sent to subjugate them.
 
Does anyone know when the Americans got their...swagger for lack of a better word? When did American exceptionalism come into being? Was there that national feeling back in 1803/4, when the Louisiana Purchase was made, or did it not really cement until they beat the British a decade later (yup, that was me totally trolling the Anglophiles, couldn't resist)?
 
Perhaps if the Quasi War becomes a full blown conflict you could see the American navy assisting the Dominicans in throwing out the French in 1808 and 1809. This could potentially provide a backdrop for the forming of a relationship between the Dominican elite and the Americans. Come 1821, the US might look like a reasonable prospect to stave of the possibility of Haitian annexation.
 
Perhaps if the Quasi War becomes a full blown conflict you could see the American navy assisting the Dominicans in throwing out the French in 1808 and 1809. This could potentially provide a backdrop for the forming of a relationship between the Dominican elite and the Americans. Come 1821, the US might look like a reasonable prospect to stave of the possibility of Haitian annexation.

That's a good idea, thank you
 

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Agreed, terrifying, thought could make for a great timeline. Is it possible there could be a bigger haiti-screw than OTL?

Yes. In a myriad of terrifying ways.

Anyways, Americans would find Haiti difficult to pacify due to its terrain and its high population. Therefore, the solutions would either be A) Genocide or B) Mass deportation of native populations as slaves into much more controllable territory back in the mainland.

A horrifying thought.
 
Would a large scale genocide even be possible? The "natives" would be immune to any diseases that the American bring with them, and weaponry wasn't exactly geared towards wholesale slaughter. I would assume mass deportation would be the only "real" option.
 
They certainly didn't stop when it came to Mexico.

I'm not aware of a genocide against the Mexicans. Native Americans, obviously, but 1, I'm not sure that was the primary goal (I believe the goal was to move them, killing them was just a byproduct), and 2, it was on a much smaller scale.
 
I'm not aware of a genocide against the Mexicans. Native Americans, obviously, but 1, I'm not sure that was the primary goal (I believe the goal was to move them, killing them was just a byproduct), and 2, it was on a much smaller scale.
There's a history of lynchings of several Hispanic people throughout the XIX Century in the Southwest after the Mexican Cession (and even at the times of the Texan Republic). It's not as known as the mass lynchings of blacks (Which some argue, coupled with the still-present disenfranchisement, as well as the continuous episodes of Police Britality, to be a form of Slow-Motion Genocide), but it still was (and if one counts the mass graves of Hispanics in Texas, still is) a very real phenomenon. It may not count as Genocide from the traditional sense, but it were certainly acts of racially-based violence that costed the lives of many people.
 
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