AHC: America fights a Vietnam style conflict in ''South China''

AshiusX

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I'll use this map as a reference for this scenario.

Due to the stalemate created by the Chinese Civil War, both the communist and the anti communist Kuomintang attempt to create two nations in China. The Communists find a foothold in Northern China and the Nationalists finding the Chinese Communists too entrenched in Northern China is forced to capitulate Northern China to them.

In the 60s America finds itself slowly embroiled in fighting a massive insurgency funded and supplied by "North China''. US policy makers see the importance of ''South China'' in its war against communism in Asia. Given's South China's large population and its location; many see South China as the ''gate'' holding back the tide of communism from slipping into South East Asia.
 
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Onkel Willie

This won't work. The communists control the best developed part of the country and will squash 'South China' before significant US forces can arrive. Any stalemate between the CPC and the Kuomintang would have a frontline that's decidedly north of the Yangtze River.
 

Workable Goblin

Also, the border to the west of Sichuan doesn't make any kind of geographical sense that I can see. It just seems to rather heedlessly cut across the Qinghai-Tibet plateau and the Tarim basin without conforming to things like passes or viable road/rail corridors. I suspect that North China would, in this scenario, be able to easily take control of Tibet and the Tarim Basin without South China being able to do anything about it.
 

RousseauX

Donor
Onkel Willie said:
This won't work. The communists control the best developed part of the country and will squash 'South China' before significant US forces can arrive. Any stalemate between the CPC and the Kuomintang would have a frontline that's decidedly north of the Yangtze River.
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Why?

The economic heartland of China has being shifting south for centuries by this time.
 

EternalCynic

RousseauX said:
Why?

The economic heartland of China has being shifting south for centuries by this time.
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Without undisputed control of the Yangtze, there is simply no secure transportation corridor within South China. The Yangtze had always been a vital channel. In fact, the richest part of China for centuries is the Yangtze Delta precisely because of its easy access to both the Yangtze watershed and the North China Plan (via the Grand Canal). Whomever controls the south simply cannot afford to lose unmolested supremacy over the Yangtze. So, by the time the Commies reach the banks of the Yangtze, all they need to do is to bombard KMT shipping and watch its supply lines crumble. Hence, for a fighting chance of survival on the mainland, the KMT needs to either push the Commies back to the River Huai, or prevent them from crossing it.
 

Daewonsu

Banned
Main issue is that if Manchurian industrialization happened as it did in OTL, then North China has too much power. If this industrialization didn't happen or was destroyed/stolen, then South China might have a chance.
 
Sabot Cat

Sabot Cat

Banned
All hail the glorious map and its maker!

And woe to the United States for getting into a Vietnam-style quagmire in China.
 
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