AHC: Alternate ethnic movements and migrations?

Is there anyway that Nova Anglia could have lasted longer?

Maybe Charleston could have remained the capital of Jewish America.

Currents seem to be favorable for indigenous Taiwanese to sail for Kyushu and Shikoku

I briefly thought about making a timeline where the Palawa settled New Zealand
 
Anglo-Saxons in Iceland. Somehow, the Anglo-Saxons sail to Iceland and settle there, or perhaps are removed to Iceland by the Norse but later end up taking over the island somehow.

Canarians in Madeira. A more maritime Canarian culture (perhaps as a result of more contact with the Romans due to Roman conquest deeper into modern Morocco) settles the island. Perhaps they could even go further and settle Cape Verde and the Azores.

Maldivian Lakshadweep--a stronger Maldives and more disorganised Keralans leads to the Maldivian conquest of the islands and eventual assimilation. Around the time, Maldivians (or their descendent cultures) settle the Chagos Islands, Cocos Islands, Christmas Island, Seychelles, and Mascarene Islands.

Punic Malta (and surrounding islands like Lampedusa) after Antiquity. Basically somehow getting Punic speakers to the islands in Late Antiquity and having the islands remain Punic speaking.

Tocharian Burma. Tocharian speakers are driven out of their cities and merge with the highlanders of the Tibetan plateau (of whom the ancestors of the Burmese were one of those groups). They eventually move into Yunnan, where they play an important role in the Nanzhao Kingdom, and eventually migrate south into Burma and conquer the Pyu city states. The language of the elites, heavily influenced by Sanskrit and Tibeto-Burman languages, is spread widely amongst the people of Burma over the centuries, creating a large Indo-European speaking kingdom in Southeast Asia.

Kalmyk (Southern) Ukraine--bigger and more successful migration of Kalmyks into Russia reaches Southern Ukraine, where they destroy the Crimean Khanate and settle the area in their place.

Currents seem to be favorable for indigenous Taiwanese to sail for Kyushu and Shikoku

They did, that's why there were Austronesian-speaking peoples in Kyushu before they were conquered and assimilated by the early Japanese.
 
I have always liked the idea of a Crimea where all the ethnic groups that settled it in OTL survived to the present day, creating the most multi-ethnic and multi-religious country in Europe.

Also, Nogai eastern Ukraine, Khazar northern Caucasus, old Irish Iceland, Mesoamerican agricultural and building techniques spreading northwards and birthing an Egypt-like empire on the Mississippi.
 
• Brennus defeats the Greeks at Delphi and sack it. Despite the military inexperience of his army, Brennus is able to exploit the pre-existing divisions between the Greek city-states (and Macedon). A permanent Celtic presence is formed between the Danube and Spercheios. The pre-Celtic inhabitants, whether Greek, Thracian or Illyrian, are either subsumed into these new Celtic kingdoms or flee towards the Hellenistic East, hungrily seeking military settlers to send eastward.

• The pre-Eskimo Saqqaq culture discover OTL Iceland around 1000 BCE. The more temperate environment allows the Saqqaq to prosper and multiply beyond what was then allowed in their old homeland: the roots of a tribal state are formed amongst the Icelandic Saqqaq by the dawn of the first millennium AD. Advances in boating (among other areas) incentivize the Saqqaq in Iceland to push both eastward and westward. In a matter of several generations, the Arctic is more or less populated and/or influenced culturally and linguistically by the Saqqaq.

• Luck leads to the Ottoman Empire winning a few of the military and foreign policy fights leads to the abolishment of the Capitulations in the mid 19th century. The combination of government-private capital investment, establishment of the OE's first rail-lines and discovery of natural resource deposits leads to the start of Turkey's Industrial Revolution. As Christians are considered un-trustworthy and strongly encouraged to emigrated, this incentivizes bringing over poor Anatolian, Levantine and North African peasants to work in the factories in European Turkey. Starting with a few dozen thousand, these predominately rural migrants - uniformly labeled as Macırlar - number in the millions by the twentieth century and make up a local majority in much of European Turkey. These Macırlar and their descendants backed the Ottoman project of constructing a national identity that transcended race or ethnicity - propagating a unity based on Islam and loyalty to the Caliph.
 

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  • For whatever reason during the Napoleonic Wars, the governor of Java does not swear allegiance to the British-backed King of the Netherlands, and Java is captured earlier than 1811. Because Java is not considered to be important, it remains a backwater of the British Empire, compared to its OTL role as the heart of the Dutch Empire. Therefore, there is little incentive for significant numbers of Europeans to settle there, as they did IOTL. Due to poverty and the need for cheap labor, Javanese laborers are sent out to other parts of the British Empire, such as Guayana [OTL Guyana and Suriname], the Cape and Australia. These laborers end up at the bottom of the social rung, but they are accepted by other groups, such as Indian indentured laborers [from Uttar Pradesh and Bihar, which were already in British control by POD]. Despite religious and linguistic differences, there begins to emerge a mixed-race Indian-Javanese population, particularly in areas like Guayana, where people from all over the British Empire were imported to serve as indentured labor. After the decolonization of Guayana, these Indo-Javanese Guayanans choose to mostly identify themselves as Javanese and speak Javanese as a second language. Thus a Javanese-Guyanese population is created.
 
  • For whatever reason during the Napoleonic Wars, the governor of Java does not swear allegiance to the British-backed King of the Netherlands, and Java is captured earlier than 1811. Because Java is not considered to be important, it remains a backwater of the British Empire, compared to its OTL role as the heart of the Dutch Empire. Therefore, there is little incentive for significant numbers of Europeans to settle there, as they did IOTL. Due to poverty and the need for cheap labor, Javanese laborers are sent out to other parts of the British Empire, such as Guayana [OTL Guyana and Suriname], the Cape and Australia. These laborers end up at the bottom of the social rung, but they are accepted by other groups, such as Indian indentured laborers [from Uttar Pradesh and Bihar, which were already in British control by POD]. Despite religious and linguistic differences, there begins to emerge a mixed-race Indian-Javanese population, particularly in areas like Guayana, where people from all over the British Empire were imported to serve as indentured labor. After the decolonization of Guayana, these Indo-Javanese Guayanans choose to mostly identify themselves as Javanese and speak Javanese as a second language. Thus a Javanese-Guyanese population is created.

Given Java's population and the fact the Javanese were spread around the Dutch colonial empire as it was, it's certainly possible that some sort of contract labour might be used to bring large numbers of Javanese (and other "Malays") to the Caribbean and other parts where indentured labour was demanded. They wouldn't be as numerous as Indians given Indonesian's lower population, but they would make up a sizable diaspora.
 
Madagascar conquered earlier by an Islamic country and becoming very Arabized

Larger migration and settlement of South America by Polynesians (irl the only signs of any Polynesian settlement are some genetic commonalities in one island off the coast of Chile)

  1. I think that an empire centered around the Swahili Coast, Oman or a one of the post-Mohamedean Persian empires would be the most likely to do that. I would prefer that an empire centered around the Zanzibari Archipelago or Kilwa settles the northern coast of Madagascar.
  2. I've always liked the idea of Polynesians in America.
 
Karluks to Persia, ahead of some kind of massive Mongol pressure.

Seljuks to the Indus.

Banu Hilal to the Sudan.

Scythians to the Balkans.

Mesoamericans to the Mississippi.
 
I totally support the Scythians pushed to Balkans idea :eek: (we could imagine that Scythians remain super powerful over Central Asia, and then with Mongols they are forced to flee, becoming montain nomads x3
 
Basically what it says on the tin. Anything from ancient tribal migrations to modern immigration patterns to industrial era immigration.
Lapplanders to Greenland. Would be interesting how they would handle the Little Ice Age. At least they know something about reindeer. Getting them there would be the real Challenge though.
 
A Hindu majority settler colony or a nation strongly influenced by the Indian diaspora is a very feasible scenario. The ex-British areas of the Caribbean have a large South Asian population that are the descendants of settlers from the British Raj. Image source With a few minor PODs in British imperial history, one of the islands in the former British Caribbean that is OTL majority African or influenced by the West African diaspora may have become Hindu-majority states or more strongly influenced by South Asian culture by independence.
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Most people residing in the Gulf States today are migrant workers from South Asia. Considering the harsh conditions most of these workers face, the Gulf states would probably be considered de-facto apartheid states if the migrants weren't citizens of another country. If communist revolutions of downtrodden workers ever come back into fashion, several of the Gulf States would become South Asian majority countries.
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A 2nd Austronesian expansion into the Indian Ocean. So, not just the Barito-Malagasy to Madagascar, but various Sumatran, Javan, and Bornean groups end up colonizing the Andamans, Sri Lanka, Lakshadweep, Maldives, Chagos, Seychelles, Mauritius, Reunion, and various coastal islands around the ocean. Maybe even after a looooong time, they find Kerguelen?
 
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