AHC: All three major european monarchies (England, Germany, Russia) survive post-1960

This is a double-whammy, you need to avert both the russian revolution and WW1... I believe in you AH.com.

Rules:

-POD must be post-1880, I know it's the post-1900 forum, but you can go a little back. All the interesting stuff will happen in the 1900s.
-Please make the cousins be semi-friendly at least sometimes, who doesn't want prince and princess political marriage stories but with nukes?
-Try to keep as many other monarchies around, especially japan, lets get Hirohito hitched to a nice european princess. Keep the kings of italy and spain stronk too. Interracial royal marriage on the millenium for Ethiopia?
-The more power the kings and queens have, the better. Parliament can stuff it, lets get a clever king to lead england to victory!
 
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Well somehow preventing WW1 is the obvious choice, which saves not just those two (England, or more properly the United Kingdom still has its one), but most of the other ones, leaving France, Switzerland and Portugal as the outliers in being republics.
 
I'm sure avoiding ww1 would help, which could also help dodge ww2. Maybe some other major war (against US???, thats the only other big power that could really give them a run for their money) could get them to become fairly friendly.
 
Even without WWI Czarist Russia had a lot of fundamental flaws that would lead to its fall at some point
This is accurate, though with a 1880s POD having Emperor Alexander III live longer and prepare Nicholas for the throne might do the trick. Fact is he was unprepared for his duties and that had disastrous consequences. Also have them win the Russo-Japanese war, with both of these the Russian Monarchy might just survive long enough to be reformed.
 
This is accurate, though with a 1880s POD having Emperor Alexander III live longer and prepare Nicholas for the throne might do the trick. Fact is he was unprepared for his duties and that had disastrous consequences. Also have them win the Russo-Japanese war, with both of these the Russian Monarchy might just survive long enough to be reformed.
Reforms can’t fix hemophilia. Nicholas wouldn’t have a male heir
 
My best scenario is the have Russia prevail in 1905, or at least not suffer a humiliating defeat, that should squelch the Anglo-Russian portion of the Entente if not undermine the Franco-Russian alliance sufficient to leave Europe much more fluid. Although Germany and A-H are likely wedded, and France will take more time to stop hating Germany, the other countries are now free to shift alliances and leave more wiggle room, that should prevent enough tinder to let a true European war spark. Japan can lose the war and move on to reform rather than buoy itself into becoming a co-equal military power, its loss should keep it the junior partner to Britain longer and allow it to also pursue more German connection, especially as Anglo-German relations may sour but cannot become deadlocked with an ambitious Russia also pursuing its naval ambitions. Russia likely still has some revolt but it likely leads to reforms rather than overthrow. Russia will be more aggressive and might provoke a war but it will be peer on peer rather than larger and larger alliances, any defeats may not be enough to destroy the loser. A-H might split but it will be into two Monarchies and maybe some lesser ones, overall the age of Kings should hold out much longer albeit it will become a collection of figureheads and Europe at least will be very social democrat dominated by 1960. All told the great powers will be more alike than not behind the pageantry.
 
How could one avoid WW1? Just stopping the assassination of good 'ol franz would still leave the alliance web there to start a new war.
 
How could one avoid WW1? Just stopping the assassination of good 'ol franz would still leave the alliance web there to start a new war.
Yeah, but neither of the Balkans wars kicked it off, so it's not going to be dropping a rock in the wrong place that kicks it off.
 
True, but they have to keep going to the 60's (preferably later). It would be tough to get an extra ~50 years without something going down.
 
The problem isn’t the form of monarchy but the rulers themselves.

The Tsar was nicknamed “Nicholas the Bloody” by his political adversaries due to the Khodynka Tragedy, anti-Semitic pogroms, Bloody Sunday, the violent suppression of the 1905 Russian Revolution and the executions of political opponents. So having Nicholas II killed in April 1891, during the world tour in the city of Ōtus, Japan, would cause a war between the two nation and have an alternative son on the throne. Most likely Michael after the death of George.

A war between Russia and Japan, could benefit the Chinese monarchy, if Guangxu Emperor, supports Russia and gains land and honour from defeating Japan.

While Wilhelm II, the German Emperor is seem as a warmongering baffoon who ignored intelligent advised. So having either his father survive long enough to set about reforms and a liberalistic agenda or have Wilhelm killed/die early.
 
I don't think you can avoid WWI, tbh. The whole of Europe was a powder keg; the duke's assassination just lit the fuse. Sooner or latter, something else would have happened.

I very much doubt the UK would become a republic, which leaves just Germany and Russia. A lot depends on wether Russia gets involved in the war. Considering it's massive social problems, not to mention the poor state of it's army, any kind of prolonged war, involving large casualties with defeats, will most likely result in revolution. Otoh, if Russia's not involved, maybe there's a chance the Czar can stabilize the country*.

If Germany achives a quick win, or one in 1-2 years, then the Kaiser will probably stand. Otherwise, we go back to a bogged down, drawnout slugfest. Russia's presence (or absence) will also influence this, because of the number of german troops stuck fighting in the east.



*I have read he was trying to make reforms, but I admit my knowlege of the politics of the era is far from perfect.
 
Perhaps a very quick war in 1914, as in over by Christmas:
  • Britain declines to get involved.
  • Germany curbstomps France, leading to the fall of the Third Republic, and the restoration of the Bourbon (Orleans branch)
  • Russia sees which way things are going, and signs a treaty with Germany.
That gets you an extra monarchy - though I'm not sure if we can swap Russia for France?
 
Are there any clever reformists in line for the russian or german thrones? You could always have a palace fire if they're 5th in line or something...
 
Are there any clever reformists in line for the russian or german thrones? You could always have a palace fire if they're 5th in line or something...

Germany is stable (apart from Willy being Willy). It's Russia that's the problem.
 
"England" is not a monarchy, the United Kingdom is.

And why are only those three "the major European monarchies", and not Austria-Hungary? Nor Italy, nor Spain?

(Ottoman Turkey's capital is in Europe, but Turkey is not a European country.)
 
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