AHC: A state larger geographically than Texas in the contiguous US

In 1849/50 Zachary Taylor wanted the Mexican Cession admitted immediately as two large states. Would either or both of those have been bigger than Texas?
 
In 1849/50 Zachary Taylor wanted the Mexican Cession admitted immediately as two large states. Would either or both of those have been bigger than Texas?

There probably would be some problems with Congress. I am not sure if Taylor can achive that with any way. And leastly later there is such problem that population would be very big and so these states would be pretty strong.
 
Democrats control Congress through 1860-80, create one gigantic mountain state including OTL Montana, Idaho, the Dakotas, Wyoming, Nebraska, parts of Colorado, Nevada, Utah, and Kansas. One giant rectangle of open land.
 
What about California containing the same land mass as OTL but also gains half of Nevada and the whole of Baja California Peninsula.

Nova California = 264,647 sq mi [710,760 km2]
(163,696*sq*mi [423,970 km2] + 55,571 [143,380] + 143,390*km2*[55,360*sq*mi] )
Texas = 268,596 sq mi 695,662
 
Democrats control Congress through 1860-80, create one gigantic mountain state including OTL Montana, Idaho, the Dakotas, Wyoming, Nebraska, parts of Colorado, Nevada, Utah, and Kansas. One giant rectangle of open land.
Suppose the Mormons do not migrate to Utah and the region is not heavily settled. Then you have a large state that includes Nevada, Utah, Wyoming, parts of Idaho, etc.
 
I can't believe Nevada is really a state. It's a den of casinos and a whole bunch of desert.

Not far off on that description


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What about California containing the same land mass as OTL but also gains half of Nevada and the whole of Baja California Peninsula.

Nova California = 264,647 sq mi [710,760 km2]
(163,696*sq*mi [423,970 km2] + 55,571 [143,380] + 143,390*km2*[55,360*sq*mi] )
Texas = 268,596 sq mi 695,662

I have had the same idea before because I think strange things, however I did not know where to take the idea of today's California and Baja California and Baja California sur as one. Originally California was much bigger than it is today and it was originally called "The Californias".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Californias

The only way California and Baja California and Baja California sur were to be as one, would be pre-american statehood and even then it may be broken in two. However not one US as even been broken up, NO! I'm wrong I just read a few days ago about the drama of Virginia and west Virginia and there was pre-american "West Florida". I think them are the only two.

They actually just tried to smash today's California into bits by passing a referendum because the state is becoming apparently ungovernable and they have a point although it's unfortunate. They did not get enough support.

Apart from that is all I have. Thank you for voicing your mind, I now know I'm not that strange.
 
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Texas exists as is but there must be a state that exists that is at least bigger in geographic size.

WOW!!! Zachary Taylor was one of those poor sods who was only in the presidential office between "March 4, 1849 – July 9, 1850". (Short period of time, there were a couple) There is your plot line... he was a general, generals love war, land, prestige and money, in time when America is moving "West" and best of all he had "vague political beliefs". (area for expansion) Now go write a best seller. That has even left a imprint on me...:rolleyes::eek::)
 
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What about California containing the same land mass as OTL but also gains half of Nevada and the whole of Baja California Peninsula.

Nova California = 264,647 sq mi [710,760 km2]
(163,696*sq*mi [423,970 km2] + 55,571 [143,380] + 143,390*km2*[55,360*sq*mi] )
Texas = 268,596 sq mi 695,662
What would the number be if California and all of Nevada were a state, without Baja California?
What if Montana and Idaho were one state?
 
What would the number be if California and all of Nevada were a state, without Baja California?
What if Montana and Idaho were one state?

California and Nevada = 274,318 sq mi
Montana and Idaho = 230,614 sq mi

I just found these interesting links:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Deseret
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Territory

It would have interesting to have seen how "Canadian" states would have been divided up and named differently if the American revolution was defeated and all north america was united.
 
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Texas exists as is but there must be a state that exists that is at least bigger in geographic size.

I found the connection unexpectedly in an unusual place and time. In 1848 James K. Polk sent Nicholas Philip Trist to negotiate a peace settlement with Mexico and I quote:

"During the Mexican-American War, President James K. Polk sent Trist to negotiate with the Government of Mexico. He was ordered to arrange an armistice with Mexico for up to $30 million U.S. dollars, depending on whether he could obtain Baja California and additional southern territory along with the already planned acquisitions of Alta California, the Nueces Strip, and New Mexico. If he could not obtain Baja California and additional territory to the south, then he was instructed to offer $20 million. President Polk was unhappy with his envoy's conduct and prompted him to order Trist to return to the United States. General Winfield Scott was also unhappy with Trist's presence in Mexico, although he and Scott quickly reconciled and began a lifelong friendship.

However, the wily diplomat ignored the instructions. Known to have an over-fluid pen, he wrote a 65 page letter back to Washington, D.C. explaining his reasons for staying in Mexico. He capitalized on a brilliant opportunity to continue bargaining with Santa Anna. Trist successfully negotiated the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo on February 2, 1848. Trist's negotiation was controversial among expansionist Democrats since he had ignored Polk's instructions and settled on a smaller cession of Mexican territory than many expansionists wanted and felt he could have obtained. A part of this instruction was to specifically include Baja California.

However, as part of the negotiations, Trist drew the line directly West from Yuma to Tijuana/San Diego instead of from Yuma south to the Gulf of California, which left all of Baja California, though almost separate from, a part of Mexico. Polk was furious. Travel time for renegotiation was a month each way. Polk had no treaty during his Presidency at the time. He reluctantly approved."

What an idiot. I can see "Lower California" becoming apart of the republic of california and being admitted into the US as one. Problem solved or at least part of it.
 
I can't believe Nevada is really a state. It's a den of casinos and a whole bunch of desert.

it does have a lot of casinos but it also has some really beautiful places, but it probably could be parts of other states, Lincoln County where my grandparents live is a lot like Utah.
 
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