AHC A second World War without Germany

As title says , WW1 still happened but in WW2 Germany in neutral.


Difficult due to the geography of Germany more than anything else. Hmmmm ... 1920: Tukhachevsky takes Warsaw and Poland is absorbed as the newest SSR in the Soviet Union. The effect on German politics is a massive increase in the socialist/communist influence and number in the Weimar republic. The Baltic States, Czech's, and Balkan slavs, soon follow. France, Britain, the low countries, and eventually the Italians enter into a pact. Stalin lets loose the red hordes at some point and the soviet influence and number in the Reichstag keeps Germany from taking part in the pact also keeps the Germans from any type of DOW. Eventually the US is drawn. In Asia .... Hmmm.
 
Hm... Germany is under a more moderate, non-Nazi leadership (military junta, perhaps?), keeps a far more moderate re-armament pace and doesn't annex Austria and the Sudetenland/Czechia, but signs something akin to the M-R pact with the USSR, where Germany gets the corridor, and the USSR all of Poland.
Later the USSR annexes the Baltic countries, kicks off the Winter War, and makes moves on Romania and Turkey, prompting the Western Allies to declare war.

At some point the USSR and Japan form an alliance of convenience, and the US is drawn into the War by some fuckup in the Pacific.
While fighting takes place in Europe (Finland), the Middle East, India, and Southeast Asia/Pacific, Germany quietly gobbles up Austria and the Sudetenland/Czechia now that the WA are busy. With the US in the WA it doesn't want to do anything to provoke them, so it sits back, mostly content with its "gains", and waits for the dust to settle.

(Alternatively, for ultimate Irony, Germany ends getting drawn into the war by a surprise visit from the Red Army.)

Can't think of anything for the Hungarians or Italians, though.

- Kelenas
 

Perkeo

Banned
It's easier than you think:

There WAS an almost worldwide military conflict without Germany on the other side of the globe. All you have to do is give Japan enough allies to accomplish the Asia-Pacific War against allied Powers that are not fighting another war in Europe and you'll still end up with something called "WWII"
 
There WAS an almost worldwide military conflict without Germany on the other side of the globe. All you have to do is give Japan enough allies to accomplish the Asia-Pacific War against allied Powers that are not fighting another war in Europe and you'll still end up with something called "WWII"
More like the Great Pacific War, since it would be the only theatre.

Getting something WWII-ish without Germany is impossible because it sits in the way between the most likely adversaries.
 
Maybe an Axis between URSS and Japan against UK, France, USA, Netherlands and Italy.
Pacific front generally as OTL except some soviet probing or attack against China or Afghanistan.
In Europe Stalin attack Poland and Finland with some thrust against Romania and the Balkans or maybe Turkey.
Germany stay neutral or the soviet war machine is stopped before he comes near his border
 

Perkeo

Banned
More like the Great Pacific War, since it would be the only theatre.

The only one, but a pretty lage one as well. The ocean alone is more than a third of the earth surface. Given the size of the the territory of the possible adversarises, including their homeland and colonies, a Great Pacific War without a Europe isn't less "WWII-ish" than the 1914-1918 war, with little action outside Europe, was "WWI-ish"

Getting something WWII-ish without Germany is impossible because it sits in the way between the most likely adversaries.

Only in Europe. A non-German WWII means no less than a non-European WWII, but no more either. If the Sowjets are on the "Axis" side, keeping the war out of Europe becomes tricky, but not impossible. Neither of the adversaries wants
a) to drive Germany and possibly a couple of other central/northern European nations to the enemy side and
b) to open a second war theatre that is A LOT closer to home.
So if whoever rules Germany is smart (VERY counterfactual, but not quite ASB:D) he can manage to stay neutral.
 
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