AHC A Saxon united Germany.

Love the idea of this though if it helps, the area of the modern region of Saxony - the parts that were a part of the original Saxon Realm we could call the outer realm with the remainder being called after it's original name of Thuringia. But now we will need a name to seperate that confusion. How about Saxony means the original region and the other South Brandenburg?

Aside from confusing repetition names at least we no longer have the widespread mixed use of Dutch for those of the Netherlands and Germany anymore in English apart from talking about the Amish and the sort. Great idea @Gukpard, I love it enough to overlook you calling us Celts haha. Saxnot mid us!
You don't need to come up with names, the Germans already did Obersaschen and Niedersaschen, upper and lower Saxony respectively.
 
Obersachsen and Niedersachsen could work. Though the modern day states are Niedersachsen, Sachsen-Anhalt and Sachsen (most of it used to be Meissen, also note that Thuringia is a different (federal) state). The house of Wettin were margraves of Meissen and landgraves of Thuringia, before they were granted the Electorate (and thus duchy) of Saxony.
 
I mean yes we already got names but as we see before, they can get confusing to those who are unfamiliar. Just trying to help those out who need it @JackLumber.
Yes you are right @Janprimus the whole upper and lower is fine. However as we have seen from the earlier posts and as I will iterate again, this can be extremely confusing to the initiated sort of thing. Certainly is a reason why I brought up the whole Thuringia thing as well, if we are going to stick with the ancient tribal names to keep things easier, then there will be further confusion. Since this is starting to feel like I am pointlessly shouting at my monitor, I will just go find some maps and a cup of tea....
 
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Lower Saxony and surroundings C.1000



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The three Saxonys today (Lower, Sax-Anhalt, Saxony)
 
In this tl I will not be suprised if the dutch are part off this nation. But will that part off this Saxony be as important?
 
A successful Henry the Lion, Duke of Saxony and Bavaria, would be a good starting point.

I like the idea of a North Sea-focused Germany, since it would be a good way to get a German colonial empire worth the title in the Americas.

I am pretty devastated that there are zero timelines with anything resembling this. Or at least none that I know of. Germany based on the North Sea, especially the Hanse is GLORIOUS. German colonies in America are an itch that has never been scratched :(
 
Or you could go even earlier. The Saxon tribes successfully resisting Charlemagne. Then you could have a pagan Saxony.
 
I am pretty devastated that there are zero timelines with anything resembling this. Or at least none that I know of. Germany based on the North Sea, especially the Hanse is GLORIOUS. German colonies in America are an itch that has never been scratched :(

Too many people here reduce pre-modern Germany to just Austria and Prussia, and the early HRE is always considered to never be interested in colonial ventures. Even though I'd assume a Henry the Lion TL would mean you have your "Austria" right on the North Sea, and even if they somehow lose Bavaria (probably involving a struggle for leadership of the HRE), then they're still a powerful nation within the HRE which can focus outward on all sorts of things in the Americas, like dominating the fur trade, Caribbean sugar islands, and even settler colonies. Imagine how many people a strong German state could ship to the New World if an event like the Thirty Years War happened? People would be lining up at the docks to sign any sorts of indentureships to get to anywhere in the colonies.

I think Germans could settle anywhere in the Americas from Tierra del Fuego to Canada, and I think they could easily be very good at it too. Areas with low density of native peoples (after plagues and warfare decimated them) like the modern US (German/Saxon New Orleans?) or Southern Brazil or Argentina would probably be where'd they most succeed.
 
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