AHC: A non-nuclear Israel?

CaliGuy

Banned
With a PoD of 1950 or later, how do you realistically prevent Israel from ever acquiring nuclear weapons?
 
Have a general and genuine Peace settlement during the 50s that covers most or all of Israel's neighbours.
 
Pretty easily. France decides Israel having nuclear weapons isn't in the best interests of regional stability and doesn't help them. Without that, Israel couldn't do it, or at least do it any sort of clandestine fashion.
 

CaliGuy

Banned
Pretty easily. France decides Israel having nuclear weapons isn't in the best interests of regional stability and doesn't help them. Without that, Israel couldn't do it, or at least do it any sort of clandestine fashion.
In such a scenario, though, could the U.S. help Israel do this after 1967?
 
In such a scenario, though, could the U.S. help Israel do this after 1967?

After the 1967 war it was pretty clear that the days of Israel being in true existential danger were over. It's hard to see why the U.S. would do it at that point.
 

CaliGuy

Banned
After the 1967 war it was pretty clear that the days of Israel being in true existential danger were over. It's hard to see why the U.S. would do it at that point.
Due to the power of the Israel lobby in the U.S., perhaps?
 
Plus the PLO had come with a new charter in 1968 which was quite violent on a rethorical point of view: Israel was "a fascist and colonialist state" who had "to be destroyed". The Charter accepted the presence of jews in Palestine but only those who were in Palestine before the "Zionist colonisation" ( which is quite vague btw, are we talking about the jews present in Palestine before 1947? 1917? Before 1917?). Those kind of words didn't help to reassure the Israeli government, even if it was only words (Arafat tacitly accepted the idea of a State of Israel in 1974). Add to this the war in 1973 (which wasn't a war to destroy Isreal but to restore Egypt's honor with limited territorial ambitions -Sinai and Golan- but Israel didn't know that back then) and Israel was still feeling threatened in its existence. Thus the nuclear option to feel safe. At least until 1978-1979.
 
Due to the power of the Israel lobby in the U.S., perhaps?

The Israel Lobby isn't that powerful. They have tremendous sway, but injecting a nuclear arsenal into one of the world's most poisonous disputes and hottest geopolitical flashpoints is some serious dynamite. It's hard for me to see them getting that. France was willing to do it mainly because the European Empires were coming apart and they needed to redefine their role by finding new allies if they wanted to remain relevant. The U.S. has no such need.
 

ben0628

Banned
After the 1967 war it was pretty clear that the days of Israel being in true existential danger were over. It's hard to see why the U.S. would do it at that point.

Ehhhh wasn't the 1973 war a really close call though?
 
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