AHC: A Native American North America

lol, I thought this was dead. The disease POD is a cool idea, but I'm not looking at like a strange TL (I will try to make one however). What I'm thinking is either most of the megafauna in prehistory survives and gets domesticated, an Aztec-like history in North America, an Incan-like history, Any Native American (especially Iroquois) gets advanced enough with a strong federation, or early civilizations like the Assyrians contacted them.
 
lol, I thought this was dead. The disease POD is a cool idea, but I'm not looking at like a strange TL (I will try to make one however). What I'm thinking is either most of the megafauna in prehistory survives and gets domesticated, an Aztec-like history in North America, an Incan-like history, Any Native American (especially Iroquois) gets advanced enough with a strong federation, or early civilizations like the Assyrians contacted them.

How would the Assyrians contact them? They were in Mesopotamia.
 
A Roman ship, battered and sinking makes it to the US coast ~50bc. Introduces horses, pigs, cattle, barley, wheat, peas, flax, ironworking, and writing.

By 500ad, the whole package has made it all the way across the continent. By 1000, there are classical equivalent civilizations in several places on the continent. The only surviving vestiges of Rome are about a dozen words.
 
Well, according to Wikipedia and other sources I found, there are some theories about them visiting Europe and America, thought I find this ASB.
Every civilization has been claimed to have discovered America at some point, and only a handful are even somewhat plausible and only 3 or 4 instances actually have proof.
A Roman ship, battered and sinking makes it to the US coast ~50bc. Introduces horses, pigs, cattle, barley, wheat, peas, flax, ironworking, and writing.

By 500ad, the whole package has made it all the way across the continent. By 1000, there are classical equivalent civilizations in several places on the continent. The only surviving vestiges of Rome are about a dozen words.
You'd think a ship of Roman sailors blown off course towards the New World might have eaten much of those supplies, particularly the animals, before they make it to American shores. And in any case, I think most scenarios for Pre-Columbian European Contact are given too much credence. Basically, IMO if you want an earlier and more amicable contact between Old World and American societies that benefits the Native-Americans to a large degree, it'd be better to look to China. Among the many mythical stories of Pre-Columbian contact is one that takes place some time around the Sui Dynasty era where a Chinese explorer supposedly reached the New World and called it Fusang. While that idea's obviously fiction, it does happen to take place during a convenient time period. If you could somehow get a Sui or Tang era ship to land in the Americas and initiate contact with the Mesoamericans, particularly trading certain things both sides would find valuable, you'd create important repercussions. The first of which would be butterflying away certain events in Mesoamerican history and giving them a needed boost around this time. A more prosperous Mesoamerica in the 5/600's would then benefit the rest of North America as well with the expansion of trade, providing a way for more stable North American civilizations than IOTL, with the Mississippians or Anasazi or what have you remaining around and doing better, and with some Old World technology a thousand years before any Columbian expedition arrives.
 
A Roman ship, battered and sinking makes it to the US coast ~50bc. Introduces horses, pigs, cattle, barley, wheat, peas, flax, ironworking, and writing.

By 500ad, the whole package has made it all the way across the continent. By 1000, there are classical equivalent civilizations in several places on the continent. The only surviving vestiges of Rome are about a dozen words.

One ship, that just so happens to have horses, pigs, cattle, barley, wheat and peas aboard? It's possible, but somewhat unlikely.

How about this: around the year 1000, Vikings are just a little more successful in establishing one or more settlements. They introduce disease and horses to the new world, and then get wiped out anyway. The native Americans adopt the horses quite fast (they did IOTL), and the spread of old world diseases means they suffer from that five centuries before the next Europeans show up, by which point they have fully recovered and developed immunity.

If the native Americans manage to capture some Vikings and eventually get useful information (about horseriding, shipbuiling, ironworking...) out of the, that would really help. Come 1492, the New World might very well be a completely different place, that stands a much better chance at resisting colonization.
 
Basically, IMO if you want an earlier and more amicable contact between Old World and American societies that benefits the Native-Americans to a large degree, it'd be better to look to China. A

I respectfully disagree. The Pacific is just too large. The atlantic is comparativly much easier to cross.

How about this: around the year 1000, Vikings are just a little more successful in establishing one or more settlements. They introduce disease and horses to the new world, and then get wiped out anyway. The native Americans adopt the horses quite fast (they did IOTL), and the spread of old world diseases means they suffer from that five centuries before the next Europeans show up, by which point they have fully recovered and developed immunity.

Ten thousand years have not given us in the old world immunity.

Ships would be the best thing for the Americans to learn. Norse shipbuilding and navigation. Fishing and whaling. Ironworking. The hose and he stirrup. Cattle.
 
Why does it seem that it has to be some European contact to advance the Native Americans? Is there any other way to advance the NA instead of the cliché domestication of the native animals of North America? (of course they'll have to domesticate them anyways, but I mean technologically).
 
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