AHC A Muslim US State

What about a home grown and predominantly white Islamic sect?

Off the top of my head, say Joseph Smith decides to found his own islamic sect. Whilst I cant imagine it would do as well as OTL Mormonism, given the right time and location I reckon it could attract like minded people. He was certainly charismatic enough.

Muslim sect. Well... let Joseph Smit come in contact with Muslims first before he can form his "muslim sect".
 
Muslim sect. Well... let Joseph Smit come in contact with Muslims first before he can form his "muslim sect".
Thats partly why I mentioned location, as it would make that much easier.

That isnt to say however that he was not aware of them entirely. He does come across as quite a learned man and there are some small parralells in his religion and islam. I wouldnt be suprised if some of the religion proved part of the inspiration for mormonism.
 
The Barbary corsairs remain a problem, and get colonized?

Josiah Harlan gets a whiff the the British coming and seeks statehood for his realm?

Liberia is retained, and larger, becoming a state with a large Muslim population?
 
The Barbary corsairs remain a problem, and get colonized?

One interesting posibility is to resettle the Salé Rovers in the Americas after the Moroccans take their city. The British can provide them material help to settle Georgia, an inhospitable swamp back the 1th century, just to antagonize Spanish Florida.

It would be cool, but certainly pre-1776.
 
A benevolent moroccan Sultan grants muslim slaves citizenship, which means that they would be protected by the Moors Sundry act.
 
The Ottomans experienced setbacks like that between 1877 and 1922. Yet people chose Ottoman lands rather than the USA even though I doubt 19th century US would be fond off Muslim immigration. The Muslims who did before 1945 were largely pretending to be Christian and for a short term.
We're talking about a step back where people cannot just flee to former Ottoman lands. A failed revolt in the 1800s could have accomplished this. The Ottomans could be rather harsh in dealing with rebellious populations.
 

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The Ottoman Empire suffers an early catastrophic collapse in the mid 19th century, leading to Russia, Austria and every other European power to carve up the land between themselves. Caught in the crossfire, millions flee to the New World, among them are hundreds of thousands of Balkan and Anatolian Muslims who would see the United States as a place of new beginnings. Labelled by terms such as "Mussulmen or "Mahometan" by xenophobic Americans upon arrival, many of these Muslim immigrants immediately went westward until they reached the Great Plains. Considered at the time unfit for large-scale agriculture and general settlement, the American Muslims would receive little competition from Euro-American settlers. With little of the racism that was common amongst their Euro-American predecessors, the American Muslims would be far more receptive intermarrying with the natives and even blacks. Missionary work by local-born imams would convert thousands of natives, African Americans and even some Asians and Hispanics into Islam.

Circa 2018, Muslims make up a plurality in Oklahoma, Wyoming and the Dakotas. They are a majority in Kansas and have a much smaller but significant presence throughout the country.
 
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Now throw in a moderately successful, but far more genocidal Israel causing a massive Palestinian influx, and a limited nuclear war on the subcontinent post Cold War resulting in Pakistani and Bangladeshi boat people,
Wow ! That escalated quickly
 
I always loved this 1784 passage from a George Washington letter instructing one of his overseers in hiring practices,
I am a good deal in want of a House Joiner & Bricklayer, (who really understand their profession) & you would do me a favor by purchasing one of each, for me. I would not confine you to Palatines. If they are good workmen, they may be of Assia, Africa, or Europe. They may be Mahometans, Jews, or Christian of any Sect—or they may be Athiests...​

"Palatines" are western Germans, for those of yall in want of knowing, and "of Asia" would almost certainly mean Turks.
 
True - but at least shows that there is a possibility for immigration from the Ottoman Empire at the very least. Also, just kind of a fascinating story!

We just can't underestimate how much the American Government went to bat for Chistian missionaries in the late 19th century. A war scare nearly erupted with the Ottoman Empire in the 1890s, created by the various murders of American missionaries and various massacres of the native Christians (even the Armenians). It never amounted to anything, as the US never had sufficient naval strength to actual support the missionaries in Anatolia and Syria (a far cry from Tripoli, so far from Constantinople).

So, even if there were a wave of migrants, it likely wouldn't be in large enough quantities, as by the late 19th century the US was already throttling immigration into the country. If any were allowed, it might be increased Armenian/Assyrian/Chaldean/etc that manage to make the trip west, as they would be the ones sponsored by missionaries for immigration west.

Not that it's necessarily impossible, but difficult to do given a similar US compared to OTL.

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One far-fetched idea might be Ablania, in fairly modern times. One very far fetched idea, as I have found out previously that it was mostly a small movement based on hearsay and a few articles in various papers. There was no organized movement to actively achieve it. But, say, a more interventionist and internationalist USA could lead towards it, especially if there is no stigma against overseas states (likely rising from overseas states made prior). Or, instead, it could become an alternate version of a protectorate create in the aftermath of a dissolution of the Ottoman Empire (to keep the Italians and Austrians away from Albania, even). Over time, Albania remains close to the US, with the populace eventually voting to become a commonwealth a la Puerto Rico. And, eventually, this movement translates into statehood.

Say, standard Wilsonian Armenia remains a US protectorate with a more internationalist USA, while there is a nominal protectorate over Albania (based upon OTL sponsorship of Albanian independence). Albania requests formal protection thanks to Italian and Austrian/Greco-Yugoslavian pressure to align/be subsumed into either nation, at which point in the 20s Albania is formally made a protectorate of the US. then the situation from above continues, with it eventually becoming integral into the USA.

Eh. Even that's farfetched, but I wouldn't say impossible.
 
I believe there are about 3 million Muslims in the US. That is a bigger population than about 12 states so even if half a million people had incentive to move to one state, they could easily be the majority.

Lets say a billionaire decides he wants to create a Muslim majority state. Set up multiple companies offering high paying jobs and buy up a lot of property and sell houses at a discount to get people to move there. You could face discrimination lawsuits but tie them up in court and pay the penalties if willing to spend enough money.
 
The US conquers Yucatan. Slave plantations are set up and Yucatan eventually becomes majority black. During an analogue to the civil rights movement, Islam becomes very popular and since the Yucatanese blacks see themselves as distinct to the US, they find that conversion to Islam is the ultimate rebellion without actually sparking American counter-action that would crush them. Many blacks wanting to be other blacks migrate to Yucatan where some convert to Islam. Such a state would probably be 70-95% black and 50-70% Muslim. I assume that such a world would have the general American think of Arabs as brown-black since they know that there is a black muslim state in Yucatan and that Islam was founded by Arabs.
 
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