America is well known for its republican sympathies, having been founded as a nation dedicated to creating a system that prevented the tyranny of a true monarch. The concept of an American king is perhaps the most foreign concept to most any modern American. However, that simply cannot do. Find some way to have a monarch on the "throne" of the United States of America, using a POD no later than 1900.
AHC: A King of the United States
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Seems like this should be in Pre 1900, because the pod required is a way in the past, not close to even the 1800's.
nbcman
Donor
It would take an amendment or amendments to the US Constitution to remove Article 1, Section 9 provisions:
as well as Article 1, Section 10:
It would probably easier to dissolve the US Constitution than it would be to convince 2/3 of the US states to amend the Constitution to remove the above Sections.
Great Depression worse off leads to the multichotomisation of the continental United States. An emperor arise from the ashes of Wisconsin forming the renewed Kingdom of the United States.
Gave this a thunk, you can have a king imposed by a conquering power, if you want him to be mildly accepted by the populace without the ole Parisian apple bob, get rid of all the kingly trappings. Make him be one in all but name. A for life hereditary executive with a title like "captain general" ala USE from the 1632 series.
I've always wondered if maybe the American populace would have accepted one of the children of Louis xvii as monarch if they escaped the terror. Assuming that he converted to prodestantism of course.
Germany wins WW1 dramatically, beyond the typical central powers victory. The US falls into civil war in the 30s after an intense Great Depression and becomes a series of warring states and many ideological factions. The Kaiser invades the fractured America in favor of some non-communist faction, and creates a Kingdom of the United States to reunite it as an ally against the British.
Maybe if you combine a massive Britwank with a Yankscrew.
Britain remains neutral in WW1, whilst America gets dragged in earlier on France's side. American intervention is enough to keep France and Russia fighting longer, but isn't enough to swing the war in their favour. The Central Powers win and America now has an even larger number of pissed off veterans upset that they were sent half-way round the world to fight in a pointless war.
Britain, on the other hand, is able to sit back and grow rich by trading with both sides and learn about the new developments in modern warfare from a safe distance. After the war Italy and France have Communist/Syndicalist revolutions, which Britain (along with Germany) uses as an opportunity to seize some of their remaining colonies.
During the 20s things go downhill for America domestically with rising political violence and the KKK gradually taking control of the Democratic Party (see Ruins of an American Party System but without the Democrats completely collapsing).
A great depression breaks around about IOTL, but the American political elite are completely incapable of responding to it (think of a mashup between Ruins of an American Party System and The Falcon Cannot Hear), eventually resulting in the outbreak of a devastating Civil War. Britain, by contrast, is able to implement a successful Keynesian program which alleviates the worst of it.
America gets torn apart in a massive multi-faction civil war for a few years, completely destroying faith in the old union, until British intervention helps bring it to a close. the US is divided into multiple states, several of which become British dominions. Over the following decades Britain gradually extends its sphere of control over the former US, eventually unifying the English-speaking parts of the Americas into an American Commonwealth under the British crown.
Britain remains neutral in WW1, whilst America gets dragged in earlier on France's side. American intervention is enough to keep France and Russia fighting longer, but isn't enough to swing the war in their favour. The Central Powers win and America now has an even larger number of pissed off veterans upset that they were sent half-way round the world to fight in a pointless war.
Britain, on the other hand, is able to sit back and grow rich by trading with both sides and learn about the new developments in modern warfare from a safe distance. After the war Italy and France have Communist/Syndicalist revolutions, which Britain (along with Germany) uses as an opportunity to seize some of their remaining colonies.
During the 20s things go downhill for America domestically with rising political violence and the KKK gradually taking control of the Democratic Party (see Ruins of an American Party System but without the Democrats completely collapsing).
A great depression breaks around about IOTL, but the American political elite are completely incapable of responding to it (think of a mashup between Ruins of an American Party System and The Falcon Cannot Hear), eventually resulting in the outbreak of a devastating Civil War. Britain, by contrast, is able to implement a successful Keynesian program which alleviates the worst of it.
America gets torn apart in a massive multi-faction civil war for a few years, completely destroying faith in the old union, until British intervention helps bring it to a close. the US is divided into multiple states, several of which become British dominions. Over the following decades Britain gradually extends its sphere of control over the former US, eventually unifying the English-speaking parts of the Americas into an American Commonwealth under the British crown.
Thomas1195
Banned
Have a Liberal Government during the Depression. Keynes would be too busy with his work in the Treasury to spread his ideas.
GujaratiRaj
Banned
During the depression, some farmer from Oklahoma says"I WILL GIVE YOU RAIN IF YOU MAKE ME KJNG OF THE USA!"
Keep finding Roosevelts. Make use of wartime controls to play Nixon type games in the 40s keeping the Republican out of power (actually, the Republicans can play too. It is more anyone who doesn't want to play the game). Include liberal Gerrymandering. Reduce public interest in voting. Talk up the Red menace.
Given the extended careers of American elected officials in any given seat it wouldn't be hard to establish a ruling aristocratic class. It basically exists anyway. The end result would be an inherited dictatorship, much like the Roman Empire, where the mere mention of royalty would be verboten.
Given the extended careers of American elected officials in any given seat it wouldn't be hard to establish a ruling aristocratic class. It basically exists anyway. The end result would be an inherited dictatorship, much like the Roman Empire, where the mere mention of royalty would be verboten.
BlondieBC
Banned
I can't quite see the USA joining the commonwealth. But I could kind of see the USA annexing some older British territory (Canada, Bahamas, etc) and then just accepting that the state of the Bahamas still had a King. Probably takes something like the UK loses to Germany and the USA takes over as protectorate the commonwealth.