AHC: A grand alliance of USSR, PRC and Communist India

Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to turn India into a communist state and bring it into a friendly 'Grand Alliance' of communist states with the USSR and PRC. Any POD from the October Revolution onwards is acceptable.

Bonus points if this leads to unification.

And if it makes things any easier, then the USSR and PRC in this scenario need not be as oppressive as their OTL counterparts - if the challenge is more easily achieved by having more moderate (or even more violent) versions of those states, feel free to let that be the case - provided the POD is, again, after the October Revolution.
 
No takers?

If only to get the ball rolling, I'd suggest the Indian Congress would need to either be replaced by a communist independence movement, or for its socialist leanings to be played up even more. The movement would have to break away from the Empire earlier, perhaps during the war itself, as Britain would be wary of releasing such a large nation into the communist camp once the Cold War sets in. Presumably, that could lead to bad blood between Britain and India and so some attempt by Britain (maybe an alternative to Suez, in terms of showing its lost status as a superpower) could cause India to cozy up to the USSR, and from there the two would act as an 'authority' preventing the Sino-Soviet split, leading to continued good relations and eventually alliance.

But some of you guys must have better ideas than that.
 
Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to turn India into a communist state and bring it into a friendly 'Grand Alliance' of communist states with the USSR and PRC. Any POD from the October Revolution onwards is acceptable.
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Not sure, but I'll take into account two things:

- In the 50s through early 80s, India was fairly close to the Soviet Union, whether for purely ideological reasons, realpolitik, a sort of "screw you, Brits" mentality, or a combination of the three.

- The Sino-Indian war of 1962: Had the Chinese had (a lot) more success in that area, they could have installed a puppet government. Although getting anywhere near New Delhi would have probably triggered an American nuclear response.

This is of course, assuming that the Sino-Soviet split never occurred.
But even if it didn't, there's no way in hell that Moscow would have been willing to go to war over China.
 
I think that expanding the 1962 war is unrealistic. The Chinese would be supplying their troops over the Himalayas, and there's no way they manage to supply enough troops to get anywhere important.
 
I think it's difficult, to say the least.
The interests of the USSR and China have always been different. The tension between the two great empires date back to a "first contact" incident in the 1600s, if I remember correctly, leading the Chinese to think that Moscow admitted the supremacy of the Emperor. Of course no communist was going to use that as an excuse, but that was presumably the beginning of tensions, which also had very substantial reasons: Border disputes, Mongolia, etc.

Mao needed Stalin to modernize China. Stalin saw an opportunity to expand his influence. Stalin dies, and saner people take the leadership of the USSR, which ticks Mao off for ideological reasons --> back to business as usual: Sino-Soviet tensions.

That being the case, we'd have to see something like a global war for the two powers to come together in alliance. Otherwise, China will be quite content to just sit back and watch.

Concerning India, I don't really know enough about the historical relationship between India, China, and Russia, to be able to have an informed opinion.
 
No takers?

..., as Britain would be wary of releasing such a large nation into the communist camp once the Cold War sets in. Presumably, that could lead to bad blood between Britain and India and so some attempt by Britain (maybe an alternative to Suez, in terms of showing its lost status as a superpower) could cause India to cozy up to the USSR, ...
But some of you guys must have better ideas than that.

Wary? Soooooo, you're imaging an insurgency of some type?

This could be quite dystopic.

A Vietnam on MEGA-MEGA STEROIDS.

Communists supported both by the SU and Red China, fighting against the British Empire.

The Stakes, the largest nation in the world.(assuming no partition)

Of course in the Cold War the US couldn't let the largest nation in the world fall into the communist camp.

Eventually the US would be drawn in.

Pfff, whether Vietnam was butterflied on not, who would care in this scenario?!:eek:


Not sure how to get there, but once you're there it would be quite a tale.
 

Kongzilla

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Wary? Soooooo, you're imaging an insurgency of some type?

This could be quite dystopic.

A Vietnam on MEGA-MEGA STEROIDS.

Communists supported both by the SU and Red China, fighting against the British Empire.

The Stakes, the largest nation in the world.(assuming no partition)

Of course in the Cold War the US couldn't let the largest nation in the world fall into the communist camp.

Eventually the US would be drawn in.

Pfff, whether Vietnam was butterflied on not, who would care in this scenario?!:eek:


Not sure how to get there, but once you're there it would be quite a tale.

Oh I'd read that TL for sure. Nothing is better than a super Vietnam.
 
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