AHC A Christian World

I believe the title is relatively self-explanatory but is there any way 90% of the world can be made Christian with a POD after 599. The world can be split amongst any amount of creeds but they must self identify as Christian. Atheists or Agnostics with a Christian background can be counted as Christians.
 
The first Nestorians only arrived in China during the early Tang, if I recall (which is around 600 AD). If they arrive earlier, and they somehow mass-convert China to this new faith (almost ASB to say the least, but stranger things have happened), then you'd get an extra 20% or something.

Greater economic links with India could help in creating more southern Indian Christian states, which could eventually help in making India Christian. Persia, again, would require some divine intervention to convert the Sassanids and make them Christian too. Even with those, though, I think the populations of sub-Saharan Africa, Mesoamerica, Australasia and Siberia would still probably make up more than 10% of the world.

I guess it could have helped if Christianity developed its 'just war' clause earlier and specifically declared 'converting the heathen' as a casus belli in itself.
 
Well, if the Arabs adopt a flavor of Christianity instead of Islam, that replaces their missionary efforts. So that locks down pretty much all of Africa, as well as a good chunk of India, particularly if they're Nestorian.
 
You can't get 90% anything
No religion has ever been more than 50%
Agreed. 50% is a more realistic goal. 90% would have to be so ASB it's not even funny. Only chance this works is if Islam is butterflied away.

If Islam is butterflied away- quite possible with a pod of 599, and a much more successful spread into China and India then you would already have a world that was 85% Christian.
 
Uh, it will sooner or later end up in a trilateral cold war between Pope following Catholics, Orthodoxs, and the Protestant reformers?
 
Uh, it will sooner or later end up in a trilateral cold war between Pope following Catholics, Orthodoxs, and the Protestant reformers?

He did say the he they could be split to any number of creeds so long as they identify as christian.

Best bet would be to butterfly islam and their is evidence that there was a growing christian community in Persia, so you could take it from there.
 
Butterflying Islam away seems to be the obvious answer. Without Islam the Middle East and North Africa stay Christian.

-Without competition eventually all Africa becomes Christian.
-With a Christian Arabia the religion spreads on the Indian ocean trade routes to Indonesia, Bangladesh, and SE Asia the way Islam did OTL.
-If the Mongols can be convinced to convert to Christianity as they almost were historically then that gives a huge boost as well. Most of Central Asia converts.
-A European conquest of the new world that would add much of the rest.

It doesn't give 90% but the only major non-Christian areas are China, India, and bits of East Asia, areas which are going to experience not insignificant conversions when surrounded by Christians for centuries.
 
Butterflying Islam away seems to be the obvious answer. Without Islam the Middle East and North Africa stay Christian.

-Without competition eventually all Africa becomes Christian.
-With a Christian Arabia the religion spreads on the Indian ocean trade routes to Indonesia, Bangladesh, and SE Asia the way Islam did OTL.
-If the Mongols can be convinced to convert to Christianity as they almost were historically then that gives a huge boost as well. Most of Central Asia converts.
-A European conquest of the new world that would add much of the rest.

It doesn't give 90% but the only major non-Christian areas are China, India, and bits of East Asia, areas which are going to experience not insignificant conversions when surrounded by Christians for centuries.

Butterflying Islam does not guarantee that another religion would not surge in their place. As I said in another thread, new religions surged often that times but only a very few succeeded. If Islam fails, another one would take its place.
 
Butterflying Islam does not guarantee that another religion would not surge in their place. As I said in another thread, new religions surged often that times but only a very few succeeded. If Islam fails, another one would take its place.

This reasoning also doesn't guarantee that another religion will take Islam's place. If there is no Islam, there might be nothing to replace it as well.
 
Perhaps a TL where Islam develops more as an extreme Nestorian sect and is continually regarded as such, like Protestantism: firstly a Christian heresy, then accepted as another mainstream branch. Semantics, though, really, once one begins questioning the Trinity, "Christianity," etc. but, hey :eek:
 
Further, nothing says that religion couldn't be a type of Christianity.

Indeed. Butterflying away Islam doesn't necessarily require Mohammed and his followers to be butterflied away - have him preach a variety of Christianity instead which, while still basically Chalcedonian, rejects the traditional hierarchies of the church and preaches a gospel in Arabic instead of Greek or Latin (by all means add some extra "epistles of Saint Mohammed" to the Arab new testament if you wish) and you can simply mirror the growth of the Arab church along the lines of OTL Islam if you wish. This gets most of Africa, the Middle East and a sizeable chunk of India.

You won't get 90% though unless you can get Christianity to penetrate China and that's tougher call. Maybe get Nestorian Mongols to impose it by the sword, or something.
 
You won't get 90% though unless you can get Christianity to penetrate China and that's tougher call. Maybe get Nestorian Mongols to impose it by the sword, or something.

I think India is the toughest one of all. The Hindu civilization has been remarkably resistant to conversion to other faiths, despite centuries of rule by Muslims and then Christians.

In China, Christianity has made inroads when it's been permitted to do so (even now, when it's not entirely tolerated, it is growing there). If you have a world where China's neighbors are Christian, its dynasty might consider adopting the faith as well or at least tolerating it.
 
If Islam is butterflied away- quite possible with a pod of 599, and a much more successful spread into China and India then you would already have a world that was 85% Christian.

Yes, it's possible. But then you'd have to account for new streams of religion gradually coming into existence. But with Islam butterflied away you have a chance.
 
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