AHC: 2 Germanys

Devvy

Donor
After World War 1, the German Empire lost a few slices (Polish Corridor, Posen, Alsace-Lorraine), but stayed largely intact. Austria-Hungary was disintegrated.

Is there anyway post World War One, that rather then having a large Germany and a small Austria, we could end up with 2 mid sized German states, such as:

- Prussia (largely resembling the North German Confederation of only 50 years prior, maybe the other states in the former German Empire becomes provinces of Prussia to create some quick stability?)
- Austria (basically "Austria" + Bavaria + Baden + Wuttemburg + maybe Saarland?)

My initial thoughts were something along the lines of the Soviets beating the Polish or something in the Polish-Soviet War - the UK and France would want some semi-strong buffer states to act as a shield (rather then a glut of small unstable states from the dissolution of Austria-Hungary, and an unstable Germany), and then maybe a similar to OTL prohibition on unifying.

Thoughts? I don't know how attached Bavaria is to the German Empire, but it does seem culturally closer to Austria, and I believe the idea of a Bavaria independent of Germany was at least mooted during World War 1...
 
East Germany and West Germany.:p


Seriously now, if you're going to make a state independent, it would have to be Bavaria. You might get some other slices of south Germany to connect the Palatinate to it. The problem with a large Austria is that firstly, it wouldn't really count as a second Germany, unless you count Austria as that already, and secondly, you're not likely to see anyone grant Austria more territory (even if they could hold it.
 

Devvy

Donor
Interesting points.

So an independent Bavaria could be carved off from Germany, taking perhaps the Palatinate, Baden and Wuttemburg with it. Maybe Saar Territory joining Bavaria when the French release it?

Considering the desire in Austria for unifying with Germany in OTL post-WW1, do we see Austria joining the Bavarian "country" here?

So we might then end up with:
- North Germany / Prussia (looks very like the former NGC), primarily Protestant
- South Germany / Bavaria, primarily Catholic
 
There was a proposal, I believe to slice of Bavaria, and combine it with a much smaller Austria and make Otto King of said kingdom.
 
you guys overlook a real possibility for post WW one with several german state!

German aristocracy !

The German Empire consisted not only out Prussia and Bavaria, but also a dozen small Kingdoms, Duchies and Principalities.
during collapse of German Empire at end of WW1, all of the aristocracy leaders resign from there thrones.
but What if some refused to resign and declare independent from the Empire ?
because the alternative would be Socialist or even Communist mob.
 
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