AH Vignette: Remain Means Remain

I'm quoting this here because it's a b o u t t h i s, thank you, yes, there's a few PODs but I did my homework and really they can all arguably come back to Cummings being ousted. The no Cummings > No Gove > No Boris > No Leave theory is a real one that IRL people have put about. Leave.EU haven't actually done much more here than they did IOTL, they were just official and still dreadful. Cameron is described ITTL as going hell for leather to win, but at least in my head he literally did nothing extra apart from the passport bit compared to OTL - it's just ITTL he's seen as having fought harder because he, er, won.

You're right that Leave wasn't per se a perfect storm but it was a convergence of lots of things that we going to boil over at some point. This is an attempt to craft an imperfect storm that still gets us out of that hole.

I disagree about Cameron doing nothing extra. Insisting that ministers resign if they campaign for Leave rather than being allowed to stay in post is a huge difference. I'm not honestly sure he would have done that unless perhaps he felt it was the only way to win. You might know something I don't though.

Interesting to read about it going the other way and how, up to this point at least, it is not that different to OTL, though what differences there are are undeniably significant.
 
I disagree about Cameron doing nothing extra. Insisting that ministers resign if they campaign for Leave rather than being allowed to stay in post is a huge difference. I'm not honestly sure he would have done that unless perhaps he felt it was the only way to win. You might know something I don't though.
Oh, yes, to be clear I meant his personal appearances on the campaign trail. There we're quite a few in OTL so I haven't added any extra here.
 
I assume that Farage has stuck around and therefore UKIP are a bit more of a thing?
They definitely haven't imploded like OTL and he has stayed on as leader. But it's only been two weeks since the result so it's hard to say what they're up do long term – but they are expected, at this point, to very much remain (no pun intended) a thing.
 
I love the vague sense of foreboding I get at the the attitudes, politics, polling, and campaigning of future Remain style issues.

This is better than OTL, but the issues we're facing in the West are still coming home to roost. I get the sense that their time may come, even if it isn't today.
 
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