AH Tropes you want to see more of

Zacoftheaxes

Put quite simply, things you want to see more of in timelines.

For me, I'll start off with one:

Al Gore, Movie Star:

I've seen plenty of timelines where people go into politics who did not do so in our timeline (and don't get me wrong, I really like those timelines) but I rarely see the opposite. Al Gore went to college with Tommy Lee Jones, what if a young Gore decided he wanted to go into film? What if Herman Cain becomes a famous gospel singer? What if George W Bush is offered a talk show on ESPN and enjoys it too much to let go of it? What if Jimmy Carter discovers how to make the world's best peanut butter?

Feel free to contribute more.
 

asnys

TLs involving changes in culture as well as politics - alternate religious movements, political or economic ideologies, etc. A TL with an anarchist Spain, or a Technocratic US, or a transhumanist USSR.

TLs involving alternative technological development paths, especially anything other than Orion. How about a TL with turbine-powered cars, or personal airplanes, or the supersonic transport? And, while we're at it, how would each of these effect the culture?
 
Turquoise Blue

Turquoise Blue

President Forgettable
TLs always show memoriable Presidents, no Presidents that just did the job and adapted to the situation, but is not that memoriable...

Hard Times
Most after-1900 timelines shows the Great Depression, but no other hard times. Like let say, the collapse of the capitalist USSR in the 2000s leads to a global financial collapse or something.

A Leader of His Universe.
Sometimes I want to see a world leader that did NOT appear in OTL.

For Want of a Office
Sometimes, I would like it if, a OTL leader loses the campaign, that they becomes famous for some other reason.
 

Killer300

Asnys said:
TLs involving changes in culture as well as politics - alternate religious movements, political or economic ideologies, etc. A TL with an anarchist Spain, or a Technocratic US, or a transhumanist USSR.

TLs involving alternative technological development paths, especially anything other than Orion. How about a TL with turbine-powered cars, or personal airplanes, or the supersonic transport? And, while we're at it, how would each of these effect the culture?
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I'll give you alternate political ideology TLs. But, I've written one called Totalitarian Ideals, which involves Democratic Totalitarianism, if you would like something with alternate ideologies. https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=216748
 

Makemakean

Margaret Thatcher never reads the Road to Serfdom and thus remains a chemist
This one I have always wanted to see, but never been able to come across. During her final year at Oxford, Thatcher did a project under the supervision of Dorothy Hodgkin, who later won the Nobel Prize in Chemistry. I've always wondered what would have happened to Thatcher had she never stopped being a poor man's physicist, rather than going into politics, any possibility she would have continued to do a Ph.D. instead? How would the current British political landscape look like?

The ideal author for this timeline would have to be an individual who has both a detailed knowledge of postwar British political history, and an excellent understanding of chemistry, preferably with a degree from an Oxbridge university in the subject. But alas, no such individual seems to be around on this forum... :rolleyes:
 

Snake Featherston

Banned
I'd like to see more WWII ATLs that recognize the Nazis were a quasi-feudal bunch of barbarians and the Soviets the closest thing the 20th Century produced to a totalitarian state, with Stalin being very cautious and Hitler a reckless gamble.

And of course I'd really like to see basic comprehension of logistics in any military ATL. As this very seldom factors into any of them pre-1900 or post-1900.

For that matter I'd also like to see more ATLs and WWII discussions where people are willing to recognize the difference between Nazi and Soviet evils as meaning something very literal, instead of claiming the Nazis didn't really mean their ideology and claiming the Soviet ideology was something very different from what it was in the real USSR.
 
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iddt3

Donor
Snake Featherston said:
I'd like to see more WWII ATLs that recognize the Nazis were a quasi-feudal bunch of barbarians and the Soviets the closest thing the 20th Century produced to a totalitarian state, with Stalin being very cautious and Hitler a reckless gamble.

And of course I'd really like to see basic comprehension of logistics in any military ATL. As this very seldom factors into any of them pre-1900 or post-1900.

For that matter I'd also like to see more ATLs and WWII discussions where people are willing to recognize the difference between Nazi and Soviet evils as meaning something very literal, instead of claiming the Nazis didn't really mean their ideology and claiming the Soviet ideology was something very different from what it was in the real USSR.
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You don't think CalBears' TLs have a basic comprehension of logistics ?
 

Snake Featherston

Banned
Wolfpaw said:
I dunno. Definitely at the tippy-top, but North Korea seems to be a real-world attempt at 1984.
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True, but North Korea stands out even in the 21st Century. Where the USSR under Stalin didn't exactly stay as totalitarian as it was under him and none of his successor-dictators were anything near as powerful.
 

Poor Little Rhode Island

1 - A Constitutional Monarchy in Russia, wherein the Tsar Alexei has non-hemophiliac sons.

2 - More ATL's wherein the ARW fails. (With some that do not have N. England uniting into any sort of federation.)

3 - China continues visiting Europe with her "Treasure Fleets".

4 - W. Hemisphere isn't subjected to E. Hemisphere's unintended biological genocide.

5 - WI, instead of colonization, Europe was under something like Star Trek's "Prime Directive"?

6 - Hitler returns to Austria?

7 - FTL in which "The Boys from Brazil" all grow to maturity.

8 - Mohammed does not establish Islam?

9 - Jesus is born in times of the Maccabees?

10 - Ben Franklin elected first US president?
 

Sam R.

I'd like to see more equivalents of "WI Margaret Thatcher was raised in Red Thaxted?" as posted by Syd Webb. The combination of the maintenance of character, under a reversal of outward forms, allows for deep introspection on the role of the individual in social change that is primarily structural.
 
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