AH Map challenge: Different Scramble for Africa

how do i get this by 1884?

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There must have been alot of colonial wars...

Algeria is taken from France by Spain, or perhaps colonized really early by them
Germany takes old french, british, portugese and american colonies in west africa
Italy takes old danish, british and dutch colonies in west africa
Portugal take the old french colony in Gabon, or perhaps colonized really early
Britain conquers Moçambique from Portugal
 
Britain also has Madagascar and France Egypt.
The POD has to be way before any colonisation took place at all.

:)
 
Italy must have been very recently united I think. That, or horrible relations with a Spain that controls the rock.
 
TC, I hope you don't mind I used your map to make my own map of Africa for my TL. My map is attached, BTW.

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how do i get this by 1884?

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You don't?

I can't imagine any PODs that would create it. For one thing, all the powers' possessions are in nice tidy blocks, which real world expansion wasn't. Let alone the issue of 'Italy' and 'Germany' having territory when the POD has to be before they were formed. Not to say they couldn't have united anyway, but this is just strange.
 
What do you mean, all the borders are the same on the second map? A large number of the colonies are united into single entites, like with German West Africa or Tunisia-Syria. Not to mention Angola and the Congo being cut in half or the fact there's a fine slice of Namibia which ended up going into Rhodesia. Though, I do admit, I never played around with the borders of the more northern of the British colonies, and I may have to redefine some of the German borders as well.
 
Oooh... I like the big Ethiopia!

For the Germans, Austria, Prussia, and the Hanseatic states (less so) establish posts in West and East Africa. When Greater German unification comes around, these posts are so concentrated that Greater Germany is able to negotiate holdings in these areas.

In Ethiopia, the Zemene Mesafint ends early, leading to expansion and the suppression of neighboring Muslim sultanates.

In southern Africa, the Boers and Zulu put even more of a fight (not a collaborative one! :eek:), tying down resources. By the time it's over, the coast of Africa has been claimed by other nations, leaving the UK behind. But by expanding northwards, Britain can grab land no one else has claimed.

Kleber in Cairo (after Napoleon deserts his forces in Egypt) switches sides and pledges loyalty to the Bourbons. After the Napoleonic Wars, France gets a head start in Africa. After posts in Nigeria are established, a route from Lagos (or its ATL counterpart) to Cairo is found necessary, and France expands of the road.

Spain gets into conflict with Morroco, prehaps over piracy, and takes over the country by force. They expand from there.

Portugal decides to establish a cocao and palm colony on the Southwestern African coast. They expand up the Congo.

The Two Scilies and Sardinia compete for colonies in West Africa. After the Rigsormento, the two colonies are merged into Italian West Africa.
 
The only way this happens is if colonial powers trade properties like monopoly. Even then I could never see Britian surrendering Egypt, or France giving up Algeria.
 
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