AH Challenge: Write a Alternate History Greco-Persian Wars Timeline

Your challenge, if you choose to accept, is to write a timeline that has Persia winning the Battle of Salamis and burn down Sparta as a result. It also has burned down Athens. Please tell what effects it will have on Greece and the world. Also, Persia must be strong after this. I would really appericate it. Thanks!
 
I think what you mean is scenario. I doubt someone's going to write a whole TL for this challenge.
 
Well it would seem someone has a bit of a crush on Persia. Keeps writing all these love letters about Persia and how it shall acieve victory and be a great nation under the dynasty of Cyrus.

But Persia is an interesting place. I suppose it's better than being obsessed, for example, with Greenland.
 
Your challenge, if you choose to accept, is to write a timeline that has Persia winning the Battle of Salamis and burn down Sparta as a result. It also has burned down Athens. Please tell what effects it will have on Greece and the world. Also, Persia must be strong after this. I would really appericate it. Thanks!

Erm - winning at Salamis will not burn Sparta, it will simply mean the end of the Greek fleet and the Persians will have turned the Greek defences at the Isthumus of Corinth. The Persians will still have to cross the Argolid and burn down Sparta (no mean feat, considering the number of troops that the cities of the Argolid and Laconia could mobilise farther south). But if the Greeks are completely routed and all their cities in the south are also gone, then it is likely that the cities of Magna Graecia or those of Liguria/Massilia or even those of Hispania will benefit from the infusion of more Greeks who flee west. And unless the Persians are able to keep a tight hold on everything from Macedonia in the north to Sparta in the south, the Greeks will still rise up (Greece at this point was overpopulated) and Philip and Alexander will still destroy Persia. This time over, Sparta (which IOTL stood neutral in the war between Alexander and Persia) will join in the fun and help destroy Persia. Also, the resulting Alexandrine destruction of Persian territories might be more dreadful.
 
The best way I can see of doing this very briefly is thus:

- The Peloponnesians opt not to help the Athenian fleet, and as a result, Themistocles recieves Xerxes' ambassadors. Athens retains her democracy in exchange for the status of a Persian allied state, not formally under the control of the Satrap Mardonius.

- Aided by the Athenians, the huge Persian army invades the Peloponesos. Sparta attempts to resist, but this is stymied by a huge revolt by the Helots, and the Peloponnesian League soon collapses. Sparta herself is not occupied, but is stripped of her territory and helots, becoming part of the Satrapy of Greece.

- Various Greek revolts fail to flare up into life. Athens enjoys a long age of glory under Achaemenid protection, and democratic ideals spread throughout the world of the Persian occupied Aegean- with full respect for the Great King, of course.

- Over the course of the fifth century, the Persians subdue much of Thrace up to the Danube, and settle it with loyalist Greek colonists. Attempts to expand to the West, however, end in failure. The tyrannical and oligarchic states proudly proclaim themselves to be "free Greeks". True, they do not bow at the knee to an oriental despot- but then again, their peoples cannot control their own internal affairs as in democratic Persian Greece.

- By 350BC, despite occasional civil wars, the Achaemenid Empire is holding up well, without any serious rivals anywhere. Carthage and the Free Greeks are too divided, Macedon is part of the Empire, and various Egyptian revolts have been effectively stymied by the introduction of local democracy in the region. By 300BC, the entire Persian Empire is operating on a semi-democratic basis, at least at a local level.


Not your usual "Persia conquers Greece" scenario, but one that I think is a little more interesting than the usual stereotypical stuff.
 
The best way I can see of doing this very briefly is thus:

- The Peloponnesians opt not to help the Athenian fleet, and as a result, Themistocles recieves Xerxes' ambassadors. Athens retains her democracy in exchange for the status of a Persian allied state, not formally under the control of the Satrap Mardonius.

- Aided by the Athenians, the huge Persian army invades the Peloponesos. Sparta attempts to resist, but this is stymied by a huge revolt by the Helots, and the Peloponnesian League soon collapses. Sparta herself is not occupied, but is stripped of her territory and helots, becoming part of the Satrapy of Greece.

- Various Greek revolts fail to flare up into life. Athens enjoys a long age of glory under Achaemenid protection, and democratic ideals spread throughout the world of the Persian occupied Aegean- with full respect for the Great King, of course.

- Over the course of the fifth century, the Persians subdue much of Thrace up to the Danube, and settle it with loyalist Greek colonists. Attempts to expand to the West, however, end in failure. The tyrannical and oligarchic states proudly proclaim themselves to be "free Greeks". True, they do not bow at the knee to an oriental despot- but then again, their peoples cannot control their own internal affairs as in democratic Persian Greece.

- By 350BC, despite occasional civil wars, the Achaemenid Empire is holding up well, without any serious rivals anywhere. Carthage and the Free Greeks are too divided, Macedon is part of the Empire, and various Egyptian revolts have been effectively stymied by the introduction of local democracy in the region. By 300BC, the entire Persian Empire is operating on a semi-democratic basis, at least at a local level.


Not your usual "Persia conquers Greece" scenario, but one that I think is a little more interesting than the usual stereotypical stuff.

What about Rome?
 
I am sorry, can somebody please, pretty please make a part about Rome in Basileus' version of the timeline. Pretty please? You happy now?
 
I am sorry, can somebody please, pretty please make a part about Rome in Basileus' version of the timeline. Pretty please? You happy now?

Or you could try and create one yourself. Instead of badgering people to make timelines you like, you could do some research and try and do it yourself.
 
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