Boston never participates in the NBA?
In seriousness, I think your best bet would be cultural assimilation. Have the Western Roman Empire fall faster and harder and maybe a few more Germanic tribes migrate to the British Isles. Over time they'll displace the Celts through expansion and frequent warfare.
With a POD after 0 AD, how can you have the Celtics be wiped out? I'm talking no Scotland, no Ireland, no Wales, etc.
The rapid fall, made harder in TTL, of Rome (450-600 range) leaving power vacuums behind it, and a slightly faster flux of gold and technology into the Scandinavian regions (Germanic loot trading northward) cause a faster/harder viking era, resulting in a Scandinavian or Nordic or Danish (or a mix) culture across the British Isles, with the Celts rapidly being subsumed into Christian Northlands cultures.
However, if you're familiar with origins of the various peoples across all of West Europe... well, the Scandinavians are of Celtic descent as well-- baring the eastern most goths & Finns, or the southernmost Mediterraneans.
Have the Nazis take over Europe, then somewhere down the line, as they get more radical, decide Celts are an inferior race.
BAM! No Celts!
Have the Nazis take over Europe, then somewhere down the line, as they get more radical, decide Celts are an inferior race.
BAM! No Celts!
FYI, it's typically Celts, not Celtics.
Er... what? That first sentence, and by extension the second, is pretty much entirely wrong. Also, Mediterraneans?![]()
1) Vikings were Norse, Swedish, or Danish.
That's Norway, Sweden, and Denmark respectively. Each was a distinct culture.
Each culture can be traced back to heavy celtic influence and DNA.
2) Most maps of the heights of Celtic (or Hallstadt Culture IIRC) influence show all of west Europe & most of C. Europe under Celtic sway, and that's around 5-300 BC. I still love the fact that they sacked Rome back in its beginnings.
Celts are descended from Turks that were named Keltoi by the Greeks, and they spread west and North throughout Europe, as evidenced by DNA claims.
If you're still thinking I'm wrong, I'd love to see some references to your sources? I'm always looking for more research material.
As for wiping them out, the Nazi trick seems to work... although they would have to take out England & Ireland. There's a TL in the ASB section about a Stargate/Hitler crossover where this eventually happens![]()
I suggest you look up history and genetic studies because there is so much you said that is plain wrong.
No he isn't.
The "Celts" of Britain and Ireland are not actually Celts. They're a separate "British" race. Celtic culture dominated Europe in the way "western" culture dominates it now.
No he isn't.
The "Celts" of Britain and Ireland are not actually Celts. They're a separate "British" race. Celtic culture dominated Europe in the way "western" culture dominates it now.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.
I was highlighting that Scandinavians aren't Celtic derived (his 1st claim) and that the Keltoi are not Turks (his 3rd claim)
1) Vikings were Norse, Swedish, or Danish.
That's Norway, Sweden, and Denmark respectively. Each was a distinct culture.
Each culture can be traced back to heavy celtic influence and DNA.
2) Most maps of the heights of Celtic (or Hallstadt Culture IIRC) influence show all of west Europe & most of C. Europe under Celtic sway, and that's around 5-300 BC. I still love the fact that they sacked Rome back in its beginnings.
Celts are descended from Turks that were named Keltoi by the Greeks, and they spread west and North throughout Europe, as evidenced by DNA claims.
If you're still thinking I'm wrong, I'd love to see some references to your sources? I'm always looking for more research material.
It's true there's no such thing as a "celtic race." Continental Celtic languages were only loosely related to insular ones. Everyone in the British Isles is predominantly descended from the first paleolithic groups which settled the area, whether a "Celt" or a "Saxon." It now looks like some time in late prehistory (before there was a written account, maybe during the Bronze Age), groups of Celtic-speaking peoples migrated from the mainland (probably Spain), and imposed their language in some manner.
Therefore, all you have to do to wipe out Celts is to wipe out all Celtic languages. It would seem damn easy to do in a TL very similar to OTL, given if not for the Welsh revival the Celtic languages would all be dead or dying today. You'd just need France and Britain to have slightly more assimilationist policies.
Alternatively, if you stop settlement of Britain by the Celts entirely, you'd end up with some mixture of Proto-Indo European and Germanic languages, with maybe a romance language spoken somewhere in Southern Britain depending upon how heavy Roman influence was.
Celts are descended from Turks that were named Keltoi by the Greeks, and they spread west and North throughout Europe, as evidenced by DNA claims.
If you're still thinking I'm wrong, I'd love to see some references to your sources? I'm always looking for more research material.