AH Challenge:Viable Cornish Independence Movement

Both Wales and Scotland have main well funded,respected and very popular parties who demand either further devolution and/or independence.The subject of Cornish independence however is considered as worth of mockery by the large majority including myself.So howw with a POD of 1918 can Cornwall have a large,popular independence party either in opposition or control of the region.

Bonus points if they get an assembly.

Uberawesomewin points if Cornwall is independent by the present. :D
 
Both Wales and Scotland have main well funded,respected and very popular parties who demand either further devolution and/or independence.The subject of Cornish independence however is considered as worth of mockery by the large majority including myself.So howw with a POD of 1918 can Cornwall have a large,popular independence party either in opposition or control of the region.

Bonus points if they get an assembly.

Uberawesomewin points if Cornwall is independent by the present. :D
Would they not need to keep their language rather better? I'm not saying that all Welshmen speak Welsh, but a lot do. Nor do all Scots speak Gaelic, by a long shot - but at there is also Scots English which is reasonably distinct. Scotland and Wales have always kept their sense of identity, even if they weren't politically independent. For one example, they have their own national churches. I think an real Cornish independence movement would need a POD probably earlier than ~1800.
 
I would broadly agree with DT that Cornwall would need a more pronounced sense of identity than it possessed by the 20th century.

I'll say this, though: killing off the Liberal Party (probably in the fifties) might have an interesting result politically. Cornwall is basically a Liberal-Tory county, and Labour still finds it incredibly difficult to move into rural areas - if you knock off the Liberals, A Cornish regionalist party might, just possibly with a high-profile supporter or two, be able to take up the slack.
 
Give Cornwall a source of money that would make it rich enough to go it alone.

Much as the SNP bases their desire for national evisceration on heartless bean-counting, that's not enough. Look at German Reunification.

Would they not need to keep their language rather better? I'm not saying that all Welshmen speak Welsh, but a lot do. Nor do all Scots speak Gaelic, by a long shot - but at there is also Scots English which is reasonably distinct. Scotland and Wales have always kept their sense of identity, even if they weren't politically independent. For one example, they have their own national churches. I think an real Cornish independence movement would need a POD probably earlier than ~1800.

Valid point about identity and PoD, but it doesn't have to be language. Austria doesn't have its own language, and to be quite frank, neither does Scotland. English as its spoken up here is distinct, but its not "Scots" (that's Burns-level stuff, and not used everyday) and it's not any more distinct than many English dialects.
 
I agree language isn't the key (although its one thing on which a national identity has been based in some places). Welsh was fading until campaigners forced us British taxpayers to cough up an amount that works out at tens of thousands of pounds for every single Welsh speaker and has become very divisive in Wales where the divide is now quite pronounced.
And with no offence I don't think we should be equating Wales and Scotland and Cornwall - Scotland was a very seperate state until the 18th Century and had a strong cultural identity of its own (for all its gripes about its southern neighbour it was never forced to adapt to "English" ways - it kept its legal system and its own education system)
Wales was never really a united country (and i know some will hate me for saying that) it was divided and weak and that enabled the English Medieval Kings to simply take it over. Wales may have a strong cultural identity today and may be referred to as a nation - but its not really one the medieval Welsh princes would really recognise and in the long run its why Welsh devolution was minor compared to that given Scotland.
Cornwall has even less of an identity and i can't see a late point of departure that would make it independent even with an early POD you might be able to turn it into an English Brittany but it would never have been strong enough to survive into our period.
 
I agree language isn't the key (although its one thing on which a national identity has been based in some places). Welsh was fading until campaigners forced us British taxpayers to cough up an amount that works out at tens of thousands of pounds for every single Welsh speaker and has become very divisive in Wales where the divide is now quite pronounced.
And with no offence I don't think we should be equating Wales and Scotland and Cornwall - Scotland was a very seperate state until the 18th Century and had a strong cultural identity of its own (for all its gripes about its southern neighbour it was never forced to adapt to "English" ways - it kept its legal system and its own education system)
Wales was never really a united country (and i know some will hate me for saying that) it was divided and weak and that enabled the English Medieval Kings to simply take it over. Wales may have a strong cultural identity today and may be referred to as a nation - but its not really one the medieval Welsh princes would really recognise and in the long run its why Welsh devolution was minor compared to that given Scotland.
Cornwall has even less of an identity and i can't see a late point of departure that would make it independent even with an early POD you might be able to turn it into an English Brittany but it would never have been strong enough to survive into our period.

Yes, it is real known that we and, grudgingly, England are the only proper countries! :D

This raises some other questions. What circumstances are necessary to prevent a resurgance of Welsh feeling, or keep it English-regionalist? Hell, could we Anglify Scotland? That would require a PoD well before 1707. The Wars of Indepdence come to mind.

Or we could Caledonify England... :D
 
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