AH Challenge: US-Europe War

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With a POD of 1948 or later, create a situation where the US is at war with an alliance of most major western European powers in the 1950-1970 range, including Britain and France, while anything east of Germany remains neutral.


I guess I should now specify that preferably no collapse of the US or a preceding global nuclear war
 
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USSR-USA nuclear exchange in 1962, over the Cuban missile crisis. USA comes out on top, but still totally smashed. The USA collapses mostly, with an ultra-radical conservative regieme rising in Omaha(new capital). Some American states break away(mainly in the West), and a psuedo-second civil war occurs. However, when the radical Omaha regieme starts talking about using nuclear weapons on a world-wide anti-communism crusade, many Western European powers invade the remaining USA and try to restore order. Somebody go make a DBWI on this.
 
A royally fucked-up Suez? I don't know...it doesn't seem likely.

I would suggest having the Soviet Union lose a WW2-continuation starting in 1945 with some royal screw-ups in Germany...by the time that wraps up (1949? 1950?), that gives you twenty years to have the former colonial powers piss off the United States in some way to get your war at the very edge of your time limit.

That's my best guess.

EDIT: POD of 1948 or later? I guess there won't be a "Continuation War", just a "Berlin Airlift War".
 
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USSR-USA nuclear exchange in 1962, over the Cuban missile crisis. USA comes out on top, but still totally smashed. The USA collapses mostly, with an ultra-radical conservative regieme rising in Omaha(new capital). Some American states break away(mainly in the West), and a psuedo-second civil war occurs. However, when the radical Omaha regieme starts talking about using nuclear weapons on a world-wide anti-communism crusade, many Western European powers invade the remaining USA and try to restore order. Somebody go make a DBWI on this.


Will people ever remember that Western Europe was allied to the US and full of US bases in 1963, and would have almost certainly have got plastered worse than the US in a Cuban Missile War? But then I suppose that's a question like "WI people stopped doing Nazi-wanks?" or "WI DBWI's didn't jump the shark in an average of three posts?"

Bruce
 
USSR-USA nuclear exchange in 1962, over the Cuban missile crisis. USA comes out on top, but still totally smashed. The USA collapses mostly, with an ultra-radical conservative regieme rising in Omaha(new capital). Some American states break away(mainly in the West), and a psuedo-second civil war occurs. However, when the radical Omaha regieme starts talking about using nuclear weapons on a world-wide anti-communism crusade, many Western European powers invade the remaining USA and try to restore order. Somebody go make a DBWI on this.
A bit far-fetched. I think it would be more likely if europe supported one side of the 'Civil War' like France and Britain did to the CSA but more and with better weapons :). If all else fails, Europe might invade America but only to get the mederate government on its feet and to protect it from the soviets. Or are they crushed now ;)?
 
Returning to the original post: is this a war which is supposed to last more than an hour or two? Both sides will have nuclear weapons, and the logistics for conventional combat are, well, poor. Now, a proxy conflict ala Vietnam might be more workable...

Bruce
 
POD: Dewey Defeats Truman (actually).

Dewey gives into the neo-isolationst wing of the Republican Party. Marshall aid is stopped cold. USA reverts to semi-isolationism. No NATO, limited participation in UN.

The cut-off of Marshall aid hammers the battered European industrial economies. Europeans exploit to their colonial empires for economic succor. Britain still looses India, but iron-grips everything else. French and Belgians get even worse in Africa and the bits of Asia they own. Residents in the NEI start to miss the Japanese.

In the 1950s, European communist movements are brutally suppressed. European neo-colonialist movements spring up everywhere as all of Europe turns into a larger version of Weimar Germany circa 1931. Churchill assassinated in 1953; hard-right parties come to power in UK, France, Benelux and Italy. Overtures to Franco, FRG. Europeans form European Defense Community (EDC) in 1954. France, UK explode nukes. Bluntly tell Soviets to mind their own business. Stalin and successor happy to recover in peace - plan to strike the Europeans later.

Brutal, vicious, unending series of colonial wars - Algeria, Nigeria, Congo, NEI, Burma. Australia, NZ, Canada withdraw from Commonwealth; South Africa enthusiaticalluy particpates for larger share of Britain's African pie. European society completely militarized. Alliance with Israel; Israeli/EDC control of Suez, Saudi. No Berlin Wall - no need as West Germany every bit as nasty as east.

Great Awakening in USA. JFK elected in 1968, ending 20 years of Republican rule. Military build up in USA. Mass protests about European colonialism.

1969: Iceland Missile Crisis. Dispute between Icelandic and British fishermen erupts. USA backs Iceland. Stations USN squadron at Rekjavik. Installs medium-range missiles in Iceland. Brits furious. US population largely supportive (reverse of OTL; with no Vietnam or Korea, there is no anti-government feeling, and just as much rage. In this TL, it is directed at European colonialism).

Brits demand removal of US missiles from Iceland. US tells them to get stuffed. EDC mobalizes and announces RN 'blockade' of Iceland. USN gathers in Norfolk and sorties, JFK proclaims blockade will be lifted or destroyed...

Mike
 
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