AH challenge: The German threat... again

The population of germany and Ruanda/Uganda/Burundi are exchanged against each other. Then the germans could gain enough power (at least for some time)in comparison to their neighbours to be a threat to anyone
 
The population of germany and Ruanda/Uganda/Burundi are exchanged against each other. Then the germans could gain enough power (at least for some time)in comparison to their neighbours to be a threat to anyone

Interesting...

The "Fourth Reich" conquering Central Africa and Israel founded along the Rhine as a founding member of NATO and EU.

Totally ASB.
 

Gremlin

Banned
Even if Germany did have Nukes, war in Europe isn't going to happen for them. If they go west - NATO nukes 'em. If they go east - WP nukes 'em.

Although a nuclear Germany means France stays in NATO and Poland caught between 2 powers one of whom has an eye on your territory decides to stay a bit more Russian orientated.

Although if their lucky the Germans might be able to have a go at Switzerland.
 
Even if Germany did have Nukes, war in Europe isn't going to happen for them. If they go west - NATO nukes 'em. If they go east - WP nukes 'em.

Well, I think Hitler would not have cared about that...

Although if their lucky the Germans might be able to have a go at Switzerland.

In such a scenario, I think both NATO and WP would be glad to help the Swiss. Furthermore, Switzerland once had a nuclear program. I think with an aggressive Germany in central Europe, Switzerland would be nuclear armed, too.
 

Gremlin

Banned
Well, I think Hitler would not have cared about that...

True. In this scenario he's been dead for a decade at least.


In such a scenario, I think both NATO and WP would be glad to help the Swiss. Furthermore, Switzerland once had a nuclear program. I think with an aggressive Germany in central Europe, Switzerland would be nuclear armed, too.

T'was a throw away comment by myself but.........link to Swiss nuclear arms build-up would be nice.
 
True. In this scenario he's been dead for a decade at least.

Well, I actually wanted to say that a nazi-like leadership in Germany would not care about millions of dead Germans as long as the puny remnants achieve the "Endsieg"...
 
The Werwolf's are more organized and eventually start a civil war/revolution, taking over West Germany, then spreading influence into East Germany, eventually reuniting. What about that?
 
mattias

What does POD mean? I assume it means start.

Welcome to the board. Its an abbreviation for point of departure. I.e. the point from which the alternative TL [timeline] develops. Unfortunately there are a lot of abbreviations in this hobby and got used to a lot of them. Probably some list somewhere.

Would the German people really desire another war? Their country had been terror bombed to pieces by the Western allies, why wouldn't that happen again? In the 50's both super powers had nuclear weapons. If they'd tried to grab neutral countries like Switzerland, Austria or Yugoslavia the pattern would be well recognised and they would be stopped.

Lack of manpower and weapon industry are other factors.
A lot of Germans would have been very reluctant, as I think many were after WWI to consider another war. Also they were is a markedly worse position and any German military build-up would have been very carefully watched by everybody else. Although the German military leaders held prisoner after WWII, was it Manor Farm, always get the name wrong, spent a lot of time discussing what mistakes they had made in waging the war and how to avoid them the next time.

The real problem I can see with the idea is that I can't see the Germans being able to secretly build up a large nuclear force. They wouldn't be allowed a non-secret one and either a war without one or evidence of a secret German bomb project and I can see the Soviets at least removing a city or two.

Steve
 
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