But with the Vandal navy possibly not distracted, isnt it going to be a whole lot harder for Belisarius to land in the first place? From what I've read, it seems that his campaign agianst the Vandals was pretty close run anyway, could the butterflies resulting from the POD cause Gelimer's brothers to not die and therefore stop the Vandalic rout at the battle of Carthage?Instead of the unnecessary invasion of Greece during the reign of Geiseric, the Vandals could capture a few key islands in the eastern Med, using them as a base for raiding East Roman shipping lanes, and perhaps divert the grain shipments from Egypt to Constantinople to Carthage instead, which could cause widespread starvation in the Eastern Roman Empire. Since the defeat of the Roman navy at Cape Bon in 468 CE, the Vandals would be able to raid where they wished for the next 65 years until the Byzantine reconquest in 533 CE.
But with the Vandal navy possibly not distracted, isnt it going to be a whole lot harder for Belisarius to land in the first place? From what I've read, it seems that his campaign agianst the Vandals was pretty close run anyway, could the butterflies resulting from the POD cause Gelimer's brothers to not die and therefore stop the Vandalic rout at the battle of Carthage?
I'll leave that up to whatever you guys think best.The POD requires the Vandals to survive to the present day? Does that mean them continuing to speak whatever Germanic language or there's room for them to pull an Egyptian and speak a local variant of Latin.
I'll leave that up to whatever you guys think best.![]()
The POD requires the Vandals to survive to the present day? Does that mean them continuing to speak whatever Germanic language or there's room for them to pull an Egyptian and speak a local variant of Latin.
The Vandals were so few in number ( the 80,000 strong migration that followed Geiseric to Mauretania also consisted of Alans ), that they adopted Latin as an administrative language anyway. If they survived long enough, they would probably have evolved some distint Romance dialect, with some vestigal Germanic loanwords.
But with the Vandal navy possibly not distracted, isnt it going to be a whole lot harder for Belisarius to land in the first place? From what I've read, it seems that his campaign agianst the Vandals was pretty close run anyway, could the butterflies resulting from the POD cause Gelimer's brothers to not die and therefore stop the Vandalic rout at the battle of Carthage?
In the 65 years before the OTL Byzantine recapture of North Africa, the Vandals have a chance to simply bleed the Eastern Empire dry by robbing its grain shipments from Egypt, and possibly forcing some kind of tribute from them in return. With famine setting into the major population centres of Constantinople, Athens, Nicaea, Pergamum, Antioch and the like, population levels may drop inside of fifty years, and the reduction of the tax-base with it. By the 530's, the ATL equivelant of Justinian probably won't be able to afford any expeditions in the western Mediterranean, perhaps struggling with the Sassanids in the east and the Slav migrations in the Balkans.
Or simply put it, instead of conquering Carthage, they migrate east along the North African coast and capture Egypt.![]()