Ah Challenge: President Geraldine Ferraro

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Under what circumstances could former Democratic Presidential VP Canidate Geraldine Ferraro become POTUS...Please discuss:D
 
Hinkley kills Reagan, Mondale defeats Bush, Dubya kills Mondale in revenge, Ferraro becomes POTUS.

Done and in under fifteen words too.:cool:
 
Yeah, fifteen crazy words! :)


The problems stem from her being a horrible politician (for example, her derogatory remarks about Jesse Jackson & Barack Obama) as well as being stuck in the '84 campaign with Mondale against Reagan.

Indeed, the easiest way is probably to kill Reagan and have Bush screw up somewhere. Perhaps Congress takes a harder tack, or a crisis blows up in Bush's face, or something. Heck maybe Bush is challenged by someone in the primaries.

At this point we can say Mondale wins but, as Landshark says, the easiest way to get Ferraro President is to then kill Mondale (though one imagines Dubya would not perform the deed).

Alternatively Mondale can lose in 1988, and Ferraro having impressed all as VP wins in 1992.


But really, Ferraro as President is something we'd want to avoid.
 
I suspect her best chance would have been to stay in the House, somehow become Speaker and something dramatic happen to a President and VP in quick succession.
 
Iran-Contra affair blows (i mean really really blows up) up shortly before the election, people are pissed are Reagan/Bush and having no else to turn to then Mondale/Ferraro, M&F win a close one in 84. Mondale goes on to beat Bush in 88. then Ferraro, still more popular the her boss, wins in 92 with Lloyd Bentsen as her wing-man and trouncing Quayle/Rumsfeld.
 
At Risk of Major Butterflies, any chance of Geraldine running and winning the Democratic Nomination in '88 on her own with same or mildly different results of OTL 1984 Election? Is it possible that maybe she could lick her wounds after her loss, but what things would she have to do to still stay relevant and popular with voters enough for her to clinch the nomination?
 
At Risk of Major Butterflies, any chance of Geraldine running and winning the Democratic Nomination in '88 on her own with same or mildly different results of OTL 1984 Election? Is it possible that maybe she could lick her wounds after her loss, but what things would she have to do to still stay relevant and popular with voters enough for her to clinch the nomination?

well if George H.W. Bush says something worst then "kicked a little ass" in front of that microphone, then Barbara Bush says something worst then "I can’t say it, but it rhymes with rich." every one hates the bushies so much the Ron kicks him off the ticket, every one feels bad for GF (They still lose in '84), the butterflies stop the Tex questions from coming up, GF goes on to to win the New York Senate seat in '86 then runs as a much loved under-dog in '88
 
well if George H.W. Bush says something worst then "kicked a little ass" in front of that microphone, then Barbara Bush says something worst then "I can’t say it, but it rhymes with rich." every one hates the bushies so much the Ron kicks him off the ticket, every one feels bad for GF (They still lose in '84), the butterflies stop the Tex questions from coming up, GF goes on to to win the New York Senate seat in '86 then runs as a much loved under-dog in '88


I definatley like where your head is at Black Angel...So with the ATL New York Senator declaring her candidacy lets say late '87 and running as the perpetual underdog how might this effect the Race? Is it possible the Ferraro might not recieve the necessary majority of delegate totals but it is enought to crack/split Dukakis lead and put Jesse Jackson over the Top?
 
I definatley like where your head is at Black Angel...So with the ATL New York Senator declaring her candidacy lets say late '87 and running as the perpetual underdog how might this effect the Race? Is it possible the Ferraro might not recieve the necessary majority of delegate totals but it is enought to crack/split Dukakis lead and put Jesse Jackson over the Top?

:eek: well Dukakis was a weak candidate (his wife was a hopeless druggy in those days)
how ever if you look at the way things went in '88
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you'll see that gore did almost as good as Jackson, if Al holds on till the Convention then Jackson will be to weak to win on the floor, like ways if Gephardt and Simon hold. it hard to tell, but if Ferraro runs i don't know if Dukakis would run, also the butterflies may save Gary Hart's (and Biden's) asses, also Dale Bumpers & Bill Clinton may run, also Mario Cuomo may let him self get drafted.
 
Well, if Ford decides not to run in 76 and let's Rockefeller take a swing at it, he may have been able to carry New York, which (assuming the country otherwise fell as it did in OTL) would give him a win. If the 1979 energy crisis hits the economy as hard in TTL, then it may very well cost the Republicans the election. Carter has already run and lost, so Mondale makes a reasonable Democratic candidate. If he picks Ms. Ferraro as his running mate then she'd be VP.

If Hinkley is more 'successful' and manages to kill Mondale, that makes Geraldine Ferraro president.
 
Dukakis is shot by a lunatic before the convention. Ferraro gets a lot of former Dukakis votes in the convention, and a lot of women's votes in the election after Iran/Contra blows up when a Republican female assistant defects in place and whistleblows.
 
Well, if Ford decides not to run in 76 and let's Rockefeller take a swing at it, he may have been able to carry New York, which (assuming the country otherwise fell as it did in OTL) would give him a win.

Rockefeller is unacceptable to the base. Ford may choose not to run (though I doubt it) but Rockefeller would not have the nomination. It would be Reagan.
 
During the campaign financial questions were raised surrounding the release of Ferraro's husband's tax returns. In July 1984, she said she would release both her and her husband's tax returns. A month later she said she would release only her returns, then she said her husband would release "a financial — a tax statement" on August 20. But Zaccaro initially refused to do so.[15] After the election the House Ethics Committee "found that Ferraro had violated the Ethics in Government Act by failing to disclose details of her family's finances", but "concluded that she acted without 'deceptive intent'

I think this is one of the strongest chances, Ferraro has to any possible future Presidential Run. Had She Released both her and her husband's Tax Returns to the General Public...Her view would look much better in the campaign and any successive election.

If she mangages to beat Bush Sr. in their VP Debate, and Barbara actually is caught on camera calling her a B****, instead of the "Rymes with a Witch" Remark...It will definatley leave an ugly impression on the incumbents in 88 and Ferraro if she annouces early enough could use it to her advantage as a rally cry for her supporters.
 
Or we could not kill anyone :p

1984 - Chosen as Vice-President Nominee, loses on the Mondale-Ferraro Ticket

1988 - Seeks the Presidency of the United States but loses in the Primary to Mike Dukakis, Ferraro will go on to become a Senator after being appointed

1992 - She again runs in the Presidential Primaries. This time she wins the Democratic Nomination and chooses the young, charismatic Bill Clinton as her VP Nominee. Ferraro-Clinton narrowly edges out Bush-Quayle.

1996 - After four popular years as governing, Ferraro is reelected
 
Wow, you guys really reached back for this old thread...Yeah, I do believe the best shot would be for the tax issue of the campaign to be did away by a full Ferraro disclosure. Her main problem IOTL was that her family basicallay imploded in the midst of the 1986 Senate Campaign. Alot of that stuff with her husband and her sons goes back before even the 1984 Campaign . So we need an earlier POD...Maybe she gets the idea in her head of her being the first female president in her first year of two in congress, thus giving her the incentive to keep her family in an iron fist. Could be a really fun and short TL, I would have to get some materials on the '84 Campaign to really get her voice down...But I love the name of "Our Lady Geraldine" as a TL...:D
 

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