AH Challenge: Post-WWII United States of Canada

So as a card-carying member of the Gloriously Gay, Anti-Grandma and Islamic Liberals of America, I, masquerading as a humble noob, have shed my disguise and start to seek to convert you all. Muhahahahaha:D:D:D:D11111!!!!!!!!

Now, to bussiness: your challenge, if you choose to accept it, is to, with a POD no earlier than VJ Day, make the United States be at a Canadian level of liberalism by 2010. By this I mean: UHC; fully legalized abortion; full rights for LGTBs; etc etc. I have a sad feeling, though, that this will be hard.

While I'm not an expert, maybe no Vietnam, leading to a more successful Great Society and a butterflying Reagan away, though that may not be feasible.
 
I'll say ASB. Canada's abortion laws remained on the books until 1988 (only struck down by the Supreme Court, not by Parliament), fifteen years longer than the US, and we're not as liberal as the stereotypes suggest. (Yes, I'm Canadian) The US is simply not that liberal: there will be concerted opposition. It is not as simple as butterflying away Reagan or Vietnam: until the mid-1970s most senior politicians in both parties were what we'd now call social conservatives or moderates. Pro-life, gay rights were simply not an issue, in a nutshell "family values". If they were social liberals, it would be on civil rights and abortion to a small extent, but on everything else there was mutual agreement.
 
I'll say ASB. Canada's abortion laws remained on the books until 1988 (only struck down by the Supreme Court, not by Parliament), fifteen years longer than the US, and we're not as liberal as the stereotypes suggest. (Yes, I'm Canadian) The US is simply not that liberal: there will be concerted opposition. It is not as simple as butterflying away Reagan or Vietnam: until the mid-1970s most senior politicians in both parties were what we'd now call social conservatives or moderates. Pro-life, gay rights were simply not an issue, in a nutshell "family values". If they were social liberals, it would be on civil rights and abortion to a small extent, but on everything else there was mutual agreement.

1) Awesome thing under your username (still don't know what its called)

2) Ah. So my idea was as implausible as I feared. Too bad.

Still, the Canada thing wasn't really supposed to mean like Canada-I just wanted a more liberal US. Come to thin of it, that might be a fun exercise, to make the US as liberal as possible...
 
Canada's abortion laws remained on the books until 1988 (only struck down by the Supreme Court, not by Parliament)

And in fact that has been the preferred MO to get anything done here for quite a while. The courts are an important part of the liberalization of Canadian society.

...and we're not as liberal as the stereotypes suggest. (Yes, I'm Canadian)

Another truth; we even have our own Bible Belt complete with megachurches, inhabited by Stockwell Day cultists. Besides, until quite recently Canada was generally regarded as more, not less, conservative than the USA.
 
Trudeaupia more conservative than post-Reagan America? :confused: I don't think so.

Yeah, that's my point-Canada isn't the stereotypical "Liberalland", but its laws at least are quite a bit more liberal then those of the United States. I wa just wondering how to get a rather more liberal USA post-WW2.
 
Trudeaupia more conservative than post-Reagan America? :confused: I don't think so.

Who said anything about post-Raegan?

I thought the POD was right after V-J day? If that is true, then what I said is also true.

If we're talking Trudeautopia, then yes, you're correct, absolutely.
 
Until the 1960s, I'd say that Canada and the US were equally conservative. Mackenzie King's 22 years in power did for Canada what the Roosevelt cousins did for the US, and the effects are just as beneficial IMO. The shift came with Trudeau, but started with Diefenbaker and Pearson in the late 1950s. In St-Laurent's time the Grits were more fiscally conservative than the PCs: Dief slammed them for being too pro-business in 1957. Bob Winters, St-Laurent's minister of International Trade, could've been Thatcher's Chancellor.
 

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Make Patton President, get into disastrous war with China over Korea and make USA more cautious of combatting Communism since it's cost more lives. This tones down the red menace, though geopolitics is hardly concerned since the Korean War isn't much more impacting than OTL, it's just a larger South Korea and the DMZ with China.

Because of less scariness of Communism, more people (including RogueBeaver, who wasn't born yet and will be influenced) will be willing to enjoy the prosperity given to them by certain co-operative ventures that aren't labelled as "Red Front Groups" or the like. This means more money for egalitarians, liberty-lovers and socialists.

The continued impacts and acceleration of the Leftists in the USA provide for a more earlier "Tea Party" in the 1980s, and it picks up almost as quickly, in order to oppose the Leftist Conspiracies and retake the USA. Though the USA stabilizes in a political area more left and liberal than OTL they've put a stop to it before the Gun Registry Act.
 

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No Vietnam would definitely help as you've already said, LBJ pretty much screwed over the left on that one.

Or have the Reagan assassination go through, Bush Sr. wouldn't have moved so far to the right, perhaps whichever democrat which comes after moves left?

Getting a liberal to be in place when the USSR falls will also help.
 
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