AH Challenge:'Neither Roman, Nor Catholic, Nor a Church

Have somebody make the above statement about the Roman Catholic Church and be justified in saying it. Use any POD that you want.

Just to help: The word Catholic stems from the greek for 'universal'
 
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I can sort something out to make it not Roman and not Catholic. But not a church ?? :confused:

Yeah...thats the tricky part. :eek:

Perhaps you could have many different sets of belief within the Church but no schisms, meaning they aren't a Church in sense of sharing the same beliefs. How you do that...I have no idea.
 

Keenir

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Have somebody make the above statement about the Roman Catholic Church and be justified in saying it. Use any POD that you want.

Just to help: The word Catholic stems from the greek for 'universal'

and "church"?

it referred to the homes of the early Christians, right? so maybe some sort of a communal (pseudo-Marxist) society with communes in colonies all over the world...and they started out either in Rome or in Roman ruins in Europe (Spain?)
 
This sounds like something a Calvinist might say--on Freep, there was a Reformed guy saying that he wondered if the Presbyterian Church (USA), which is more liberal than the Presbyterian Church in America (PCA) or other Prebyterian bodies, really qualifies as a church.

(the PC-USA has largely abandoned Calvinist theology, while the other Presbyterian bodies haven't)
 

maverick

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Lets do this in steps...

1. Either the Pope is forced to leave Rome in one of the gazillion times the city got sacked between 476 and 1944...or after the Roman Empire becomes Christian, the Emperor calls it the Roman Christian Church or something like that...Roman Empire collapses and with it, the justification of calling it Roman...I guess the Pope might move to Constantinople...

2. Catholic...Hmmm...since it means universal in Latin...easy enough, well not really, but lets say they become a minority religion in Europe...bigger reformation+worse leadership for Rome+something else...Catholicism becomes a minority religion...or...they split between west and east leaves the catholics as the small religion...

3. Not a church...now that's hard! how about a small religion without a large organization...is there a Jewish Church? I don't know, but let's say there's a Christian diaspora in the times of the Roman Empire and there's no church (I think there were like 7 Christian churches before the centralization at Rome, not sure)...just a religion...like the Jews pre-1948, or they worked differently?
 
2. Catholic...Hmmm...since it means universal in Latin...easy enough, well not really, but lets say they become a minority religion in Europe...bigger reformation+worse leadership for Rome+something else...Catholicism becomes a minority religion...or...they split between west and east leaves the catholics as the small religion...

Catholic is actually a greek word, baggins has told us that already in the first post.
 

NapoleonXIV

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First two, as has been said, easy, actually like that now.

Have it get lots more progressive and secular in it mission, with lots of very liberal and social reforming theologians, maybe have John XXIII live longer and stay vigorous, so the Ecumenical movement becomes stronger and begins to lap over into Universalism.
 
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