AH Challenge: More Pro-Colonial Rule Revolts

This is complete ASB territory. The very nature of colonialism is what drove massive, militant anti-colonial movements in colonial nations. You're not going to see the opposite except in a few isolated places.
 
You had the Algerian revolt and the Rodesian revolt if that count.

Anyway, I think more colonial possesions would have to be kept longer. Some of the newly independent countries where horror stories that would scare the locals enough to want to keep their masters. And then there is the possibility to get subsidised from the mother country.

It strikes me that a Hong Kong revolt should be interesting.
 
In the 1950s, Malta came close to joining the UK

In the 2000s, Sierra Leone did have demonstrations in favor of becoming a British colony again.

Maybe either of these has scope?

What about Rhodesia-style revolts in Spanish Guinea, Portuguese Guinea, Angola, Mozambique, or Cape Verde Islands, by changing the politics of their particular mother country in say the 50s or 60s?
 

Susano

Banned
Oh sure you could get it on some smaller islands, especially teh Carribean ones. But that would make little change. The ones where it would make a change, the large teerritorial colonies in Africa and Asia - not a chance. Wishful thinking. Why is AH so goddamn pro-colonial anyways? Is there any "WW2 avoided" TL here with proper decolonisation?
 

wormyguy

Banned
Without "One Country, Two Systems," it's very likely that the populations of Hong Kong and Macao would want to remain under European rule.
 
Wishful thinking. Why is AH so goddamn pro-colonial anyways? Is there any "WW2 avoided" TL here with proper decolonisation?

I thought it would be interesting. And I'm firmly on board with the whole "European countries handle decolonisation properly" but the primary blame with that rests on American heads, the Suez Crisis, and African insistence upon inviolate borders which has been a key factor in the ongoing internal problems of most African states. Essentially, if you can't divide your country and you can't go to war with another country in a place as unstable as Africa that just leaves one option.
 

Valdemar II

Banned
Oh sure you could get it on some smaller islands, especially teh Carribean ones. But that would make little change. The ones where it would make a change, the large teerritorial colonies in Africa and Asia - not a chance. Wishful thinking. Why is AH so goddamn pro-colonial anyways? Is there any "WW2 avoided" TL here with proper decolonisation?

Because WWII hurried the decolonisation along, through it would no doubt have happend anyway, just at a later point in time. And I don't that as bad, it would have given some colony adminstrations a oppotunity to get proper control over the entire country, and likely have resulted in more stable post-colonial states. Of course some was a lost cause anyway like DR Congo.
 
Make it last

Have the Katanga sucession or a few others work out in the droc.
That wasn't technially olonial but close enough
 
Because WWII hurried the decolonisation along, through it would no doubt have happend anyway, just at a later point in time. And I don't that as bad, it would have given some colony adminstrations a oppotunity to get proper control over the entire country, and likely have resulted in more stable post-colonial states. Of course some was a lost cause anyway like DR Congo.

Eh. The fall of empires designed for the profit of alien states that had little policy of internal development seems destined to failure.

(Honestly, the Japanese had more impressive economic performance in Manchukuo than the British had anywhere outside of the settler states).
 
You had the Algerian revolt and the Rodesian revolt if that count.

Anyway, I think more colonial possesions would have to be kept longer. Some of the newly independent countries where horror stories that would scare the locals enough to want to keep their masters. And then there is the possibility to get subsidised from the mother country.

It strikes me that a Hong Kong revolt should be interesting.

The Rhodesians weren't agitating for colonial rule to carry on, they wanted to run the country themselves, without extending full rights to the blacks. Rhodesian UDI was actually an anti-colonial revolt.
 
Eh. The fall of empires designed for the profit of alien states that had little policy of internal development seems destined to failure.

(Honestly, the Japanese had more impressive economic performance in Manchukuo than the British had anywhere outside of the settler states).
The Wolrd Wars brought the cataclysmic societal change necessary to achieve it, though. I mean, chances are it'd have happened by now anyway, but even so, the effect of the Wars on the colonies was massive, and should not be underestimated.
 
The Wolrd Wars brought the cataclysmic societal change necessary to achieve it, though. I mean, chances are it'd have happened by now anyway, but even so, the effect of the Wars on the colonies was massive, and should not be underestimated.

For one thing, without WWII, European countries would have had more resources and more of an appitite to hold on to their colonies. That could lead to a more drawn-out and bloodier decolonisation process than OTL.

Just a random thought - the colonial powers could realize that they have common interests in keeping their colonies under control you could get an alt-EU whose main purpose is co-ordination of policy towards policing the various colonies.

Cheers,
Nigel.
 
Meh, with proper I meant that most of the colonial empires get dismantled, not the indpeendant states willk be prospering ;)

Maybe that is why, because OTL the independant states have not prospered, thus less interesting.

I have read some old sci-fi where the expectations of the former colonies were shockingly high, to my hind-sign informed perspective.:(
 
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