Ah challenge.Make greenland an independent wanked state

raamses66

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This challenge is to make greenland an idpendent state in 1900 which look like this:

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Germaniac

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Selucid Empire, Carthage controlled Egypt, Hellenized Mesopotamia, Kingdom of Pergamum, Antigonid Dynasty looses macedonia, a united Greek State replaces it. Roman Republic remains in Latium. And judging on the Centralization based on Germany I would say a Gallic-Greek-German Superstate.

How about this, The Scandinavians fleeing the mass German influx following its conquest, flee to Greenland. Scandinavians begin conquering surrounding regions for more fishing. Europeans consider the Scandinavians to be almost mythological in the sense that they just disappeared to the West.

When the Europeans finally begin to colonize the America's the Scandinavians will be powerful enough to control the commerce of the burgeoning colonial economy. Likely the Greenlandic will not begin viking activity's simply because its been a few centuries since it was done.
 

raamses66

Banned
Selucid Empire, Carthage controlled Egypt, Hellenized Mesopotamia, Kingdom of Pergamum, Antigonid Dynasty looses macedonia, a united Greek State replaces it. Roman Republic remains in Latium. And judging on the Centralization based on Germany I would say a Gallic-Greek-German Superstate.

How about this, The Scandinavians fleeing the mass German influx following its conquest, flee to Greenland. Scandinavians begin conquering surrounding regions for more fishing. Europeans consider the Scandinavians to be almost mythological in the sense that they just disappeared to the West.

When the Europeans finally begin to colonize the America's the Scandinavians will be powerful enough to control the commerce of the burgeoning colonial economy. Likely the Greenlandic will not begin viking activity's simply because its been a few centuries since it was done.
Actually that map is not very related expect the greenland part.But that an interesting scenario anyway.I could imagine the Britonics and russian trying to colonise alaska and rupert's land and encountering norse people instead of just natives:D
 
Here's the problem.

Greenland is less populous than Iceland.

Greenland + Iceland is less populous than Newfoundland.

Greenland + Iceland + Newfoundland is less populous than Nova Scotia.

I can buy two countries uniting and taking the name of the smaller one. But having it happen three times in succession? That's difficult to grasp.

I can believe in some guy ruling the (then-discovered part of the) green area at some point under the title "Lord of Greenland". But not in the twentieth century, and certainly not continuously from the Medieval Warm Period until then. There's also the question: why isn't Markland included?
 
Naval Empire of Vinland. That's the only thing possible, IMO, but it would more likely control parts of continental Canada than the northern islands.
 
The settlers in Vinland claims those islands. The big boys in Europe let them have the ice floes, after all, why not?
 
The simplest way would be to change the climate. So I opt for some massive volcano eruptions around the world around 1000 AD, increasing greenhouse gases massively so that Greenland becomes more hospitable - as well as the other islands. Then a naval society forms in the circumpolar region.

Problem is of course that likely sea levels rose due to my climate change. So I change the climate again, decreasing temperatures, and putting that circumpolar state into peril - yet in 1900 it still exists, also impoverished (well, quite likely the whole world is impoverished given the massive climatic chaos I used here...).
 
Here's the problem.

Greenland is less populous than Iceland.

Greenland + Iceland is less populous than Newfoundland.

Greenland + Iceland + Newfoundland is less populous than Nova Scotia.

I can buy two countries uniting and taking the name of the smaller one. But having it happen three times in succession? That's difficult to grasp.

I can believe in some guy ruling the (then-discovered part of the) green area at some point under the title "Lord of Greenland". But not in the twentieth century, and certainly not continuously from the Medieval Warm Period until then. There's also the question: why isn't Markland included?

Actually, it wouldn't be a problem if the crown of Greenland was the only one,, and the others were duchies, or less. Look how we talk about the Kingdom of Sardinia for Piedmont-Sardinia, and that is because the only part of the Savoy realms with a crown was Sardinia

The problem is the question of when was Iceland created as a kingdom under the Danish crown? If its too early then the above scenario is impossible, and the best you could hope for would be a dual monarchy of the crowns of Greenland-Iceland, which might get referred to as Greenland in shot (like how people still say Austria after 1866 instead of Austria-Hungary)

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Grey Wolf
 
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