AH Challenge: Least Successful Barbarossa

Rebel

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Well for one thing if he lets his troops pull back to better defensive positions right away rather than wasting them defending every nook and cranny of the frontier than right off the bat we have a stronger Red Army in 1941. Perhaps they have more luck in the South pinching off the German spearheads due to greater numbers and by December hold most of the Ukraine. Then again, they will probably still have to retreat to avoid being outflanked by Center, but this diverts more German forces from Moscow. So I'd say that by 1942 the Soviets will hold a good bit of Ukraine, a large stretch of land in front of Smolensk, and Estonia, along with much larger reserves of armor and men to launch a decisive counterattack (No Winter Counteroffensive). So by December of 1942 the Germans will be in retreat on most fronts, and though the end is far off the war should go much easier for the Soviets than OTL.
 

Maur

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I like the weather idea. It's not ASB, there are instances of heavy rains in june-july, so two weeks of rains means German offensive grinds to halt quite quickly. That changes things a bit.
 

Rebel

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I like the weather idea. It's not ASB, there are instances of heavy rains in june-july, so two weeks of rains means German offensive grinds to halt quite quickly. That changes things a bit.

But then again, so would Soviet attempts to move their forces to form a coherent defense.
 

Maur

Banned
But then again, so would Soviet attempts to move their forces to form a coherent defense.
I disagree. With 22nd June POD, it takes Deus ex Machina (which weather is). Order from Stavka does not automagically make RKKA perform better.

And what would be in such order anyway?

"Ignore the plans and try to form a coherent defense, using our future doctrine. Oh, and don't mind showing initiative, we're not gonna punish it with 20 years of zsylka anymore. Really, this time we're honest."

Something like that? :D
 
How about the UK providing more support to the Greeks. Have the Balkans Campaign last longer, so that Barbarossa is pushed back from mid-June. What if the kick-off date is pushed back until August or even September? If not it gets pushed back a year. More T-34's and KV-1's with better trained crews around together with modern aircraft.
 
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