Ah Challenge: KKK Fascist America

Susano

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interesting Wat if Senario

but you know how close the USA was to become a Fascist Staate ?

you ever heard of the Cocktailcoup (called also Business Plot)?
a planned coup in the USA in 1934 by right-wing American businessmen !!!!
they called them self "American Liberty League"


From all I know, drunk or nit, its debattble how much suppor rha coup really had. It canbe used as PoD for fascits America, but d careufly abouz calling it "close"...
 
Charles Lindbergh, the famous aviator, is contacted, and offered the chance to "save his country from the Jew-Bolshevik menace." Lindbergh, even more right-wing than in OTL, agrees to the plan.
OK, you had me up to this. What makes you think Lindy was even fascist OTL? And, more important, why's he more fascist TTL (presuming he even was OTL)? After that, you're getting way too obviously Hitlerian (can you say Jake Featherston?). Even at its worst, U.S. racism & anti-semetism never advocated genocide, nor AFAIK did KKK.
After the stock market crash, the KKK starts to set up shop in Canada.
I'm pretty sure the Klan was already fairly well established here by 1930. Not big, mind you, but here.
While racism is very common in Canada at the time, their hardline brand of politics doesn't appeal to Canadians.
Take a look at Bennett's response to the Depression: round up the UE'd (most of them presumptively "Commie radicals", on no evidence) & ship them to camps far from anything so they can't agitate, frame union organizers for crimes, crack down on peaceful protests (the March to Ottawa), shoot them & call them "rioters" (the "Regina Riot"). I call that pretty hardline. Canadian politicians have always favored "law & order" over freedoms. Look at 1970 & the extreme over-reaction to the FLQ.
The 1930 elections see King booted for Richard Bennett, who has to deal with the rising tide of problems. The dual threats of communism and fscism aren't helpful and economic problems see him kicked in 1935, as King returns to power.
Considering the American Party's growing popularity, why wouldn't somebody like Adrien Arcand be bigger here? Even getting (covert...) U.S. aid...?
rallying American refugees into the government.
Huh? They just become MPs & Cabinet ministers by WLMK fiat? Fat chance.
Roosevelt's New Deal becomes a reality in Canada, and major government projects to harvest resources creates milliosn of jobs, kicking the country out of the recession.
Fat bloody chance. King & Bennett were both firm believers in the balanced budget, which is why neither managed to kickstart the economy. What you need to do that is a federal CCF government...which, IMO, triggers...
numerous raids across the borders at Buffalo, NY, Port Huron, MI, Bellingham, WA and Duluth, MN
King authorizes a big military build up.
Isn't Canada already at war in Europe? And if not, is he an idiot? U.S. pop is 10x Canada's...
The rest of the empire chips into Britain and Canada's war chests, rapidly building a force.
OTL, Britain was hanging by her fingernails in '40... When did Hitler decide not to invade Poland? Especially if he's got the U.S. on his side, TTL...
Canada ... a massive tank column
LOL.
Swift Current, AB
Now that's some ASB. Alberta? It's been in Saskatchewan for, oh, 35yr by then...

And it gets worse from there...
 
Good stuff, but a lot does seem ASB.

Honestly, I can't see a coup d'etat working in the United States. The structures of democracy are so entrenched in the country that even those who supported the attempt ideologically aren't likely to support a non-democratic system of government unless they were already involved.

The specific coup you mention seems even less likely to work. The Silver Shirts were never powerful enough to beat the Army, and wouldn't be even with strong Klan support. I guarantee you the Army would quickly and harshly put down any rebellion in the United States. The fact that the coup's leader was civillian would exacerbate this problem.

I think a more right wing America electing a far right government, which then goes on to disregard the Constitution more and more, is more likely (think The Plot Against America).

I could see a series of fascist leaders (or the same leader repeatedly reelected, as this was before the 22nd Amendment) being elected in increasingly more rigged elections.

But it's definitely a great start, I really like this idea.
 
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