AH Challenge: Kingdom of Switzerland

Thande

Donor
Maybe they could keep the Swiss happy by giving them some extra territorium, like the other old Habsburg territoruim in Swabia.

Would that really work though? Maybe my understanding is overly stereotyped, but I had the impression that there wasn't that much of a Swiss national identity per se and it was all about your canton - so having lots more territory added onto your "country" would not be much of a compensation for your canton losing its republican rights.
 

Valdemar II

Banned
Hm. That might nearly work. Those territories in South Swabia, at the Bodensee... they mostly became Bavaria, and Bavaria (unlike Württemberg and Baden) could indeed be compensated elsewhere.

Anyways, it is even conceivable that the cantons as such further exist, just that the federal level becomes a royal level and its authority is widely extended. Maybe also a direct federal domain out of those cantons who used to be subject or common territory and hence dont have any long history to begin with (St Gallen, Vaudt, Aargau, Tessin...)

Yes If the Swiss gained Breisgau and Sundgau, Baden could receive the rest of Alsace instead (the southen now unconnected arm of Baden could either go to Württernberg or the Swiss also), and one of the Emperors brothers could become (maybe Charles) Swiss king..
 

Susano

Banned
Yes If the Swiss gained Breisgau and Sundgau, Baden could receive the rest of Alsace instead (the southen now unconnected arm of Baden could either go to Württernberg or the Swiss also), and one of the Emperors brother could become Swiss king..

Of course I always liked the idea of Fürstenberg (the majority of the Badish "southern arm") surviving mediation, but its sadly indeed more likely one of the neighbours will grab it...
 

Valdemar II

Banned
Would that really work though? Maybe my understanding is overly stereotyped, but I had the impression that there wasn't that much of a Swiss national identity per se and it was all about your canton - so having lots more territory added onto your "country" would not be much of a compensation for your canton losing its republican rights.

Likely, but by giving this territorium, they could help create a Swiss identity, plus it would serve as loyal bastion for the new King. Of course we risk that any Swiss identity end up German based, which could be a problem.
 

Valdemar II

Banned
Of course I always liked the idea of Fürstenberg (the majority of the Badish "southern arm") surviving mediation, but its sadly indeed more likely one of the neighbours will grab it...

If they can get a larger state to support them it could survive, and gain the entire arm, Baden wasn't much bigger before the revolutionary wars. Of course it needed that support in 1806, in 1815 it's likely to late, unless the Austrians has taken quite a likening to them, or someone support them to avoid a too strong Switzerland.
 
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