Here's a challenge.

Robert Francis "Bobby" Kennedy survives his assassination unharmed.

Under the circumstances of either Humphrey as President and Kennedy as Vice President, or Kennedy as President and Humphrey as Vice President, what does such an administration look like?
 
Not sure that this happens honestly. I know it's a challenge but without a pod in either man's life it isn't likely.

If Humphrey is the nominee, then RFK isn't likely to accept the #2 spot. He shared a close relationship and almost co-presidency with his brother, he's not going to want a spot that leaves him little power. I think he heads back to the senate, consolidates his power and looks towards '76.

If RFK is the nominee. He's very unlikely to offer the spot to Humphrey. RFK viewed Humphrey as weak, and most likely doesn't want a big reminder of Johnson's presidency anywhere near. It's kind of hard to be the candidate that's different from Johnson, when you keep his vice president on the ticket.

It's also doubtful Humphrey would want the spot should RFK offer. Humphrey viewed the vp spot as something he had to do to get him to the presidential nomination eventually. Losing the nomination, then running as vp again is a lose-lose for HHH. If Bobby wins, then Humphrey can't run until 76, and if Bobby loses, then Humphrey is damaged goods.
 
Not sure that this happens honestly. I know it's a challenge but without a pod in either man's life it isn't likely.

If Humphrey is the nominee, then RFK isn't likely to accept the #2 spot. He shared a close relationship and almost co-presidency with his brother, he's not going to want a spot that leaves him little power. I think he heads back to the senate, consolidates his power and looks towards '76.

If RFK is the nominee. He's very unlikely to offer the spot to Humphrey. RFK viewed Humphrey as weak, and most likely doesn't want a big reminder of Johnson's presidency anywhere near. It's kind of hard to be the candidate that's different from Johnson, when you keep his vice president on the ticket.

It's also doubtful Humphrey would want the spot should RFK offer. Humphrey viewed the vp spot as something he had to do to get him to the presidential nomination eventually. Losing the nomination, then running as vp again is a lose-lose for HHH. If Bobby wins, then Humphrey can't run until 76, and if Bobby loses, then Humphrey is damaged goods.
My idea was that the convention (and the primary) is such a close competition that having Humphrey and Kennedy on the ticket is a concession to avoid squabbling.
 
My idea was that the convention (and the primary) is such a close competition that having Humphrey and Kennedy on the ticket is a concession to avoid squabbling.

That's interesting. Only if Humphrey approaches Kennedy with the idea, and Humphrey agrees to be the veep again. Still, Humphrey has much to lose and little to gain by this.
 
That's interesting. Only if Humphrey approaches Kennedy with the idea, and Humphrey agrees to be the veep again. Still, Humphrey has much to lose and little to gain by this.
I was actually thinking vice versa - Humphrey as President, Kennedy as Vice President.

What are the chances of a Rockefeller/Romney Republican ticket in 1972?
 
It would almost require an ASB.

The combined Wallace-Nixon vote was just too high. I don't see either camp being open to Humphrey or RFK. Republicans aren't going to nominate a Goldwater type again, so you can't count on them to shoot themselves in the foot.

Best POD would be Nixon winning in 1960, having a second term as bad as LBJ's full term, and the voters feeling buyer's remorse. But then RFK isn't a Senator, and the D party bosses will be reluctant to put a Catholic on the ticket. The country isn't ready for that...
 
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