AH Challenge: Get a rock song to #1 on the Billboard Hot 100 between 2008 and 2012

80's of course glam like Roxy Music and Bowie can't be considered metal ever, no matter how good it is!

The reason I bring it up is most "true metalheads" I know specifically exclude Glam-Metal and Nu Metal which I don't think is fair since they do represent an important part of the evolution of metal... even Nu Metal, without it we wouldn't have gotten the Djent sound or the few diamonds in the rough like RATM or SOD.

Eh, while some may consider it metal, it's not metal to me. :p Glam metal is, and is a genre that I admit I have a soft spot for. I've seen Warrant, Ratt, Extreme, and Bang Tango among others. :)
 
Eh, while some may consider it metal, it's not metal to me. :p Glam metal is, and is a genre that I admit I have a soft spot for. I've seen Warrant, Ratt, Extreme, and Bang Tango among others. :)
See I'm the opposite with the exception of Van Halen, Guns and Roses and some of Ozzie's stuff I listen to just about no Glam-Metal though I consider it metal still. I'm more of a Prog-head (HATE Dream Theater though) than a Metal-head but Black Metal and Death Metal tickle my fancy for some reason.
 
As for the OP the issue rock had and is having is that the fan base is divided. In the 00s you have Emo, Indie, Nu Metal, and the remnants of Grunge all with their own fan bases and little cross-over appeal. The last thing that really interested a large audience was American Idiot and when Blink 182 broke up the pop-punk genre's core fan base was taken over by Emo which turned off many potential fans due to the fashion and association with self-harm.
 
Maybe have some big "event" movie feature prominent use of a rock song on the soundtrack. The only problem with that is that most of the big movies from that time period wouldnt fit with rock songs on the soundtrack (can you really see avatar or the dark knight with rock music in the background?).
 
Maybe have some big "event" movie feature prominent use of a rock song on the soundtrack. The only problem with that is that most of the big movies from that time period wouldnt fit with rock songs on the soundtrack (can you really see avatar or the dark knight with rock music in the background?).

Maybe if the people who made Quantum of Solace gave a shit about it, then it would have been a better film and maybe the theme would have been a hit, that would be right after "Viva la Vida", but it'd work.

The question is what band would they get to do it? Flobots was doing very well on the Modern Rock charts, maybe we could get them to do the Bond Theme?
 
Maybe if the people who made Quantum of Solace gave a shit about it, then it would have been a better film and maybe the theme would have been a hit, that would be right after "Viva la Vida", but it'd work.

The question is what band would they get to do it? Flobots was doing very well on the Modern Rock charts, maybe we could get them to do the Bond Theme?

Was Another Way To Die not good enough? :confused:
 
I thought the hate was collective, but it's probably only me and Odysseus that really don't like it.

I actually liked the song. Never thought I'd say that about something Alicia Keys did, but whatever. How about Prince? I mentioned him earlier, but I don't think anybody noticed. Have him make a big comeback album with lots of guest stars and massive publicity and touring, and I think it could happen.
 
Maybe Lonely Boy by the Black Keys could have done better.... Or Human by The Killers?
 
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Why did you have to make this thread in the middle of my classical music kick? Now I might be stuck in elitist snob mode for the rest of my life!!!

What is the relationship between what's on the charts and what people actually listen to? Someone restore my faith in humanity and tell me they aren't that relevant.
 

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One might say that the Hot 100, at least at this moment, is inordinately influenced by the radio airplay component. I see this as an overcorrection of the policy that was pursued in the 1990s, when a song could be a massively popular radio hit but was ineligible for the Hot 100 because it didn't have a commercial physical release. Examples include "Don't Look Back In Anger" and "Chanpagne Supernova" by Oasis, "Iris" by the Goo Goo Dolls, "Don't Speak" by No Doubt, "Torn" by Natalie Imbruglia and "Fly" by Sugar Ray.

If you want a recent example of the impact of airplay's impact on the chart, look no further than Maroon 5's "One More Night", which was outsold by "Gangnam Style" pretty much every week it was at number one, but managed to cling to that position by virtue of its massive advantage in airplay.
 

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Maybe have some big "event" movie feature prominent use of a rock song on the soundtrack. The only problem with that is that most of the big movies from that time period wouldnt fit with rock songs on the soundtrack (can you really see avatar or the dark knight with rock music in the background?).

What do I win?
 

Released after the end of the "Rock Gap", both "We Are Young" and "Somebody That I Used to Know" had been #1 by the release of TDKR. Although that would be totoally great if that song became a massive hit.

One might say that the Hot 100, at least at this moment, is inordinately influenced by the radio airplay component. I see this as an overcorrection of the policy that was pursued in the 1990s, when a song could be a massively popular radio hit but was ineligible for the Hot 100 because it didn't have a commercial physical release. Examples include "Don't Look Back In Anger" and "Chanpagne Supernova" by Oasis, "Iris" by the Goo Goo Dolls, "Don't Speak" by No Doubt, "Torn" by Natalie Imbruglia and "Fly" by Sugar Ray.

If you want a recent example of the impact of airplay's impact on the chart, look no further than Maroon 5's "One More Night", which was outsold by "Gangnam Style" pretty much every week it was at number one, but managed to cling to that position by virtue of its massive advantage in airplay.

This is correct, but I'm actually looking for a rock song which can get a lot of crossover airplay.
 
Well, the Foo Fighters did release Wasting Light in 2011 (which I own, it's quite good). Rope was just hard enough for my Rocker friends to really like it, but then it was mainstream enough for my Pop friends to really enjoy it too.

I also heard a rumor somewhere that Dave Grohl was approached for a Foo Fighters Episode on Glee. Now, if Dave did say yes (which would require a different set of mind, it would alienate a lot of his old fans methinks.....) then the Foo Fighters Songs would get into the mainstream again. Glee did manage to get "Forget You" into the charts, after being near the bottom at its debut.

What about The White Stripes? I know they broke up, but could one of Jack White's side bands go a bit further? He and Alicia Keys did do the Quantum of Solace song, which seems to be a hit or miss with people.

Maybe make The Strokes a bit more popular?


A further back solution would be for "Rock" to transform the way it did.

Rap and Pop seem to really be hitting that point where the record companies are controlling everything, and there's a strong "counter" culture to it.

Rock went through that in the 80's with glam metal right? A good example of that is "We Built This City" by Starship if I'm correct.

That directly led into Grunge, as Grunge was the counter to over-commercialized Glam Metal from what I understand.
Grunge was associated with the darker bits of society, which lead to Emo, and the Emo collapse.

After about 2005 Rock is more of an Counter Culture movement.

Then, all this could easily be my ignorance of the situation. So take this with a grain of salt, but I think that for Rock to stay a pivotal form of music (as Rock was always there when a decade's pop music popped up, disco, 80's pop, Boy bands, etc.....) you would need to change how Rock was in the 80's. Other than that, you would need Bands to try and distance themselves from the stigma that Emo has, whether they try to go Pop-Punk again, or make an entirely new sound is up to them.


Again, these are just ideas popping into my head, sorry if they aren't all there.
 
Kings of Leon and "good song" cannot be mentioned in the same sentence... :D

You need another British invasion, the Arctic Monkeys could do it, I think...

Billy, if there is another British Invasion I predict a Riot ....

either that or a film using an Iron Maiden, AC/DC or Metallica track as a main theme

alternatively are Ok Go 'rawk' enough ?

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Maybe have some big "event" movie feature prominent use of a rock song on the soundtrack. The only problem with that is that most of the big movies from that time period wouldnt fit with rock songs on the soundtrack (can you really see avatar or the dark knight with rock music in the background?).

'Run to the Hills' or 'Aces High' in Avatar ?
 
'Run to the Hills' or 'Aces High' in Avatar ?

Problem with that is they've already had exposure and I doubt it'd be enough to get them crossover airplay.

Here's a thought. Congratulations was MGMT's hipster cred album (as if they needed one, it's still really good though) and therefore wasn't as big in the radio airplay department as Oracular Spectacular. What if Congratulations was more similar to Oracular Spectacular and we get a mega-hit from that album, maybe a more psych-rock version of the song "Congratulations".
 
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