AH Challenge: Germanophone nation in the Americas

Did someone say Prussian California?

Did I bring that cliche to these boards or did it generate here independently?

You give us more evidence that was can be Real... and with very interesting Effects( i have my own idea for a Preussen Kalifornien... who include Native Indian Askaris and Hindenburg in the new world.. in the first draft). and was the most pausable for have an germanophone nation in the Americas(only you have to FWIV to see California as a signal of God to civilize that territories)

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Nivek von Beldo
 
Split With English

Rebelous colanies split with England. The first Congress has a lot of issues to define. Pennsylvania, Maryland and others suggest German as the official language. Congress votes for German by a small margin. Schools are tought in Germand. Public doccuments are in German. By 1900 good Americans speak German. Ja?
 
Rebelous colanies split with England. The first Congress has a lot of issues to define. Pennsylvania, Maryland and others suggest German as the official language. Congress votes for German by a small margin. Schools are tought in Germand. Public doccuments are in German. By 1900 good Americans speak German. Ja?

I don't think it could be possible to have German the official language at the time of independence. What could be done, though, is increased German immigration to certain parts of the colonies, in particular the former Dutch colonies, to an extent that some colonies at independence have a German majority and adopt German as official language. These colonies will then assimilate further immigrants into the German majority and will likely attract even more Germans to the US than IOTL - if that's possible.

Now if we go with Pennsylvania and let it expand westward with its German immigrants, we might get Ohio, Indiana... the Midwest as German dominated as well. With industrialization starting, this should lead to assimilation of further immigrants into the German majority. Finally, you'd get a US which is partitioned into predominantly German and predominantly English-speaking states (maybe the added diversity leads to more expansion and Spanish-dominated states as well. Cuba?). Thanks to the overall number of German immigrants IOTL and German-speaking states in the midwest attracting people from elsewhere, the German-speakers might be the majority of the population and German-speaking states might be the majority as well.

Nevertheless, you'll never get a fully German speaking US with a POD in the 18th century. And to get German-owned colonies before that, you'll need a truly major POD.
 
You could have Bismark demand French colonies in South America and the general era. Of course this would would need the United States being destroyed in the Civil War and still too weak to do anything and some good diplomacy towards Britain.
 
Suppose Bonaparte did not sold France's claims of Louisiana to the US, and decided to keep it. Louisiana territory became stagnant, the US not making a colonization attempt on the west, and the ACW never happened. Thus, Louisiana was still a part of France until 1870, when the Franco-Prussian War started. When the war was over and the French defeated, Otto von Bismarck saw a need for a unified Germany to have an American territory and forced the French to cede Louisiana to the newly formed Germany. Louisiana became a German province. By then, the lands in the west are still inhabited by the Native Americans and Germany made a drive to colonize the lands and obtain a Pacific port. But Germany faced Mexico in her moves. Mexico-German war then started over border dispute. Germans won, and Mexicans were forced to cede Alta California and Nuevo Mexico to Germany.

Years go by with Germany in an arms race with other nations. Great war erupts with the Balkan Incident and fierce fighting is seen at Europe. Little warfare is seen at the Americas, for the bulk of German and British Forces are recalled at home. Germany attacked but was defeated in the process. Before the war is over, the German province in the America, under impression that the European Germany was no better than the American one, the German province seceded from her parent country, and formed the new nation of Deutschprovinzen. Germtan would become it's national language, as part of it's ties to Germany.


What would your opinions be?
 
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