AH Challenge: CSA and The Cuban Missile Crisis.

Ok, so is it possible for there to have been a Cuban Missile Crisis in a world where The CSA won the USCW?

I got the idea after reading about The Cuban Missile Crisis, and being and AH Fan I wondered how a Confederate Government would have handled The Crisis.

So if it is possible for the CMC to not be butterflied away, how will The CSA react? Maybe the USA and the CSA put aside their differences to face a united Enemy, The USSR? Or maybe the USA is an ally of the USSR?
 
Ok, so is it possible for there to have been a Cuban Missile Crisis in a world where The CSA won the USCW?

I got the idea after reading about The Cuban Missile Crisis, and being and AH Fan I wondered how a Confederate Government would have handled The Crisis.

So if it is possible for the CMC to not be butterflied away, how will The CSA react? Maybe the USA and the CSA put aside their differences to face a united Enemy, The USSR? Or maybe the USA is an ally of the USSR?
Considering all of the factors that led up to the Cuban Missile Crisis, including two World Wars, serious changes in economic philosophies, a host of people and events that all depend upon each other, and a century of time...no, no it is not possible to have a Cuban Missile Crisis in a world where the CSA exists still.
 
If the CSA had won they'd have stayed a backward regional power, one with a decided hostility to science given the fundamentalism that was the norm.

The chances of the region that tried to put Scopes into prison for teaching about Darwin becoming a nation that could develop nuclear weapons...not likely.
 
If the CSA had won they'd have stayed a backward regional power, one with a decided hostility to science given the fundamentalism that was the norm.

The chances of the region that tried to put Scopes into prison for teaching about Darwin becoming a nation that could develop nuclear weapons...not likely.

I don´t see the connection between Darwin and the development of nuclear weapons. You now, the one thing is the field of biology, the other the field of physic.
If fundamentalist regimes would be unable to handle modern science, then the Iran wouldn´t be such a big problem.
Don´t get me wrong, I think Evolution is right, but its not the big cornerstone of sciene some people make it.
You can still have nukes, missles and computers without Darwinism.
Propably even gentech, because its depends more on the Laws of Mendel.
 
If the CSA had won they'd have stayed a backward regional power, one with a decided hostility to science given the fundamentalism that was the norm.

The chances of the region that tried to put Scopes into prison for teaching about Darwin becoming a nation that could develop nuclear weapons...not likely.

Perhaps I'm being overly sensitive because I would be what you might call a "Johnny Reb" if the CSA won, but at the same time I'll grant that the ignorance of this place runs rampant in some areas even today, with the US at the helm.

The notion that the CSA would 1) survive in it's USCW state for another century is preposterous, and 2) being a 'backward regional power' is arguably a contradictory statement; I'll explain.

The CSA being based more upon a stronger Articles of Confederation/weaker Constitution suggests that the CSA would fragment further from the Civil War era. My own argument is a split between a Virginian-based school of thought and that of a Texican, but I digress.

Being a backward regional power makes about as much sense as the oft-quoted "military intelligence" or "jumbo shrimp" which the latter actually makes more sense in your analogy. The CSA, if independent, would still be reliant upon either foreign investment or continued economic exploitation of weaker states. Being on the doorstep of a far vaster and far more industrialized nation whom considers you to be an illegal abomination also calls to question whether the continued 'backwards' attitude would continue, especially in the ways of military sciences.

I do apologize if that was a little convoluted, as I'm rushing and a bit absent-minded by nature. Cheers!
 
I could see, if by some miracle history remained OTL otherwise, the CSA being even more hostile to the USSR than the uSA. Communism would likely be illegal, and if they managed to aquire ukes, they could very well start WWIII. IMHO.
 
Basicly all you need for a Cuban Missle Crisis is, that Cuba form an Alliance with a foreign power, which is considered an enemy by the CSA and/or the USA, and that this foreign power station nuclear Missles in Cuba. Even with all the changes after a different ACW such a scenario stays possible.
 
Sigh...The CSA could not, I beleive, take on Spain only about 3 or 4 decades after it's birth.

Really?

Okay, Mexico beats Spain out of their backyard. Texas beats Mexico. US & Texas whoop Mexico. CSA stands toe-to-toe with USA for (arguably) a few years.

I think the CSA had the power, especially if allied to Cuban Rebels, to boot Spain out of Cuba, if necessary. Of course, they might have bought it, if need be. Or some other sort of exchange. Maybe a joint CS-US Spanish American War?
 
Eh, yeah the CS could have beaten Spain in a colonial war. Spain's colonial empire was already near the bottom of a long, downward slide by this point.

Such a war would likely happen in the 1880's so the CSA has plenty of time to stabilze and become quite the regional power.

Couple this with the fact that Cuba and Puerto Rico are a lot closer to the Confederecy's home ground, and the local populace already dislikes Spain anyways, you'll have a relatively simple victory.

Now I will say they won't be able to sieze the Phillipines, but I'm sure their Japanese neighboors will take care of that for them.
 
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